Socialist Public Schools In America

Started by redcliffsw, December 18, 2009, 01:58:20 PM

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Diane Amberg

Perhaps Marx took education ideas from us instead of the other way around. Other countries have "borrowed" good ideas from us before. Even our clothing styles have mostly gone from us to others, not the other way around.

srkruzich

Quote from: Diane Amberg on December 18, 2009, 02:07:30 PM
Perhaps Marx took education ideas from us instead of the other way around. Other countries have "borrowed" good ideas from us before. Even our clothing styles have mostly gone from us to others, not the other way around.
Sorry to inform you but marx got it from the same place that this country got the idea of Government schools. It was first used over in european areas. maybe the barvarian areas.  i don't remember right off hand which.  But this country didn't have Government schools til early - mid 1900's.
Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

Anmar

QuoteIn America, compulsory-attendance laws in all fifty states force parents to send their children to public schools.

not true, you can send your kids to private school or home school them.  Families have the choice.

QuoteIn America, teachers, principals, administrators, and school janitors are also government employees, paid, trained, and pensioned through government taxes.

College tuition is mostly paid for by the student.

QuoteIn America, public-school teachers' salaries depend on length of service competence is irrelevant.

in America, all teachers are underpaid.

I agree that most school suck, but there are a lot of good ones too.  Charter schools are popping up all over here in california and they are largely a success.  I think that schools, like the fire and police department, are pretty much based on socialist ideas. 

On the other hand, I'd rather live in a country full of intelligent citizens than a country of people who can't read.  I think abolishing public schools would be the best way to hasten our descent to a third world country.  We are already on that track.  Lets deny education to kids and see how that works out, right?
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

srkruzich

Quote from: Anmar on December 18, 2009, 08:12:04 PM
not true, you can send your kids to private school or home school them.  Families have the choice.

College tuition is mostly paid for by the student.

in America, all teachers are underpaid.

I agree that most school suck, but there are a lot of good ones too.  Charter schools are popping up all over here in california and they are largely a success.  I think that schools, like the fire and police department, are pretty much based on socialist ideas. 

On the other hand, I'd rather live in a country full of intelligent citizens than a country of people who can't read.  I think abolishing public schools would be the best way to hasten our descent to a third world country.  We are already on that track.  Lets deny education to kids and see how that works out, right?
I doubt it.  I don't see it stopping those who want to learn from going to college and they have to pay for that.  Should work just fine if they have to pay for their primary education. At least parents that have to pay will take more of a interest in what and how their child is doing. 
Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

Anmar

what about the parents who can't afford to send their kids to school?  My bet is that the majority of people living in Elk county wouldn't be able to afford private school.  It's my understanding that Elk is one of the poorest counties in the state, with a very large portion of the population relying on government handouts to make a living.
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

Sarah

Quote from: Anmar on December 18, 2009, 08:25:37 PM
what about the parents who can't afford to send their kids to school?  My bet is that the majority of people living in Elk county wouldn't be able to afford private school.  It's my understanding that Elk is one of the poorest counties in the state, with a very large portion of the population relying on government handouts to make a living.

There's always homeschool.  Not as cheap as public, but less expensive than private and a lot more control over what is taught and individualized one on one attention. 

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Edie

redcliffsw

Since Castro took over Cuba, he's "improved" education and all are educated.
But, that's about as far as it goes.  

And there's a lot of educated people in this country that act like they were educated
in Cuba - but they weren't.


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