Judge David Kithil on Obamacare

Started by Jo McDonald, December 02, 2009, 02:46:24 PM

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Jo McDonald

  I received this from a friend.
Jo          
             
                      
             
The article is in the Marble  Falls, Texas newspaper. It was written by our former
county judge, David Kithil. He voiced his  opposition to HB 3200, and gave
EXACT SPECIFICS, to include  page and paragraph in the bill on why
this Health Bill is BAD. I called Thomas Edwards,
Editor of the River  Cities Tribune, to get legal
permission to quote  David Kithil's comments. He
gave me that  permission, so I can quote him. Here are
excerpts from the article, giving EXACT
pages and paragraph in the bill and why it is so bad. You
can forward this to all of your addressees. I think he hits
everything right on the head and the opposition you may
encounter cannot argue  over these points:
                   
                  JUDGE KITHIL:
  "I have reviewed selected sections of the bill and find it
unbelievable that our Congress, led by Speaker Nancy Pelosi,
could come up with a bill loaded with so many wrong-headed
elements. We do need to reform the health insurance system
in America in order to make coverage affordable and
available to everyone. But, how many of us believe our
federal government can manage a new program any better than
the bankrupt Medicare program or the underfunded Social
Security program? Both Republicans and Democrats are equally
responsible for the financial mess of those two  programs.
I am opposed to HB 3200 for a  number of reasons. To start with, it is
estimated that a  federal bureaucracy of more than 150,000 new
employees will  be required to administer HB3200. That
is an unacceptable expansion of a government that is
already too intrusive in our lives. If we are going to hire
150,000 new employees,  let's put them to work protecting
our borders, fighting the  massive drug problem and putting more
law enforcement/firefighters out there."
                   
 NOW here comes the good stuff: "Other problems I have with
this bill  include:
                   
Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all
non-U.S. residents, even if they are here  illegally.
                   
Page 58 and 59: The governme will have real-time
access to an individual's bank account  and will have the
authority to make electronic fund transfers from those
accounts.
                   
Page 65/section164: The plan will be subsidized (by the
government) for all union members, union retirees and for
community organizations (such as the Association of
Community Organizations for Reform Now -  ACORN).
                   
Page 203/line14-15: The tax imposed under
this section will not  be treated as a tax. (How could anybody
in their right mind come up with that?)
                   
Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of
specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.
                   
Page272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to
the patient's  age.
                   
Page317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on
hospital expansion, however, communities may petition for an
exception. Page 425, line  4-12: The government mandates
advance-care planning  consultations. Those on Social Security
will be required to  attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years.
                   
Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors
can write an end-of-life  order."
                   
                 HAD ENOUGH????
Judge Kithil  then goes on: " Finally, it is specifically stated this bill
will not apply to members of Congress.
Members of Congress  are already exempt from the Social
Security system and have a well-funded private plan that covers
their retirement needs. If they were on our Social
Security plan, I believe  they would find a very quick
"fix" to make the plan  financially sound for the future."
                   
           Honorable David Kithil
           Marble  Falls , Texas
All of the above should give you all the point  blank ammo you need
to support your opposition to Obamacare.
                   
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU GATHER, BUT WHAT YOU SCATTER....
THAT TELLS WHAT KIND OF LIFE YOU HAVE LIVED!

Anmar

most of these statements have already been proven to be false
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

Patriot

Quote from: Anmar on December 02, 2009, 03:21:02 PM
most of these statements have already been proven to be false

Please provide authoritative references showing that these statements are 'false'.  I presume you aren't relying on the law degree and advanced Constitutional Law courses you got out that box of Cracker Jack.
Conservative to the Core!
Gun control means never having to fire twice.
Social engineering, left OR right usually ends in a train wreck.

Anmar

ITs already been done on these forums
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

Jo McDonald

Soooooooo ?? And your point is?  It can't be brought up again?
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU GATHER, BUT WHAT YOU SCATTER....
THAT TELLS WHAT KIND OF LIFE YOU HAVE LIVED!

Anmar

"The chief source of problems is solutions"

Varmit

Proven to be false...really...then riddle me this...

SEIU is one of the leading authors of the healthcare bill.  SEIU is one of the largest supporters of undocumented "workers" in this country.  SEIU make millions of dollars of campaign contributions each year.  Do you really think that they would "leave out" one of the largest portions of their people? 
It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

Anmar

they did, it's done.  I've already posted this.

I don't know why you all are going nuts over illegals getting healthcare at taxpayers expense.  IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.....

The bill has a section that says the new law will not pay health care bills for illegal aliens.  Thats a huge giant step towards fighting illegal immigration and its a hell of a lot more than what any republican did while they were in office.
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

Patriot

Quote from: Anmar on December 03, 2009, 09:28:32 AM
they did, it's done.  I've already posted this.

I don't know why you all are going nuts over illegals getting healthcare at taxpayers expense.  IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.....

The bill has a section that says the new law will not pay health care bills for illegal aliens.  Thats a huge giant step towards fighting illegal immigration and its a hell of a lot more than what any republican did while they were in office.

Please to provide bill reference, section, page and paragraph.  If you are going to say it's a lie, then provide something other than DemonCrat talking points. Thanks.

And as for what has or has not been done or by whom is concerned... Would it not be much easier to bridle the horse from the front end.  ENFORCE OUR EXISTING IMMIGRATION STATUTES.  Remember, young fella from caleeeforeeahhh, the demoncrats had control of congress for at least the last two years of the Bush Administration.  Perhaps a better question is:  Why has NO ONE done anything definitive about illegal immigration?

Just some food for thought.  Doesn't the very need to debate this issue cause anyone a problem.  WTF do we have in DC if the concept of American taxpayers providing health coverage for illegal aliens (read: criminal foreigners who have invaded our country) even needs to be thought about.
Conservative to the Core!
Gun control means never having to fire twice.
Social engineering, left OR right usually ends in a train wreck.

Anmar

Quote from: Patriot on December 03, 2009, 11:41:24 AM

Please to provide bill reference, section, page and paragraph.  If you are going to say it's a lie, then provide something other than DemonCrat talking points. Thanks.

And as for what has or has not been done or by whom is concerned... Would it not be much easier to bridle the horse from the front end.  ENFORCE OUR EXISTING IMMIGRATION STATUTES.  Remember, young fella from caleeeforeeahhh, the demoncrats had control of congress for at least the last two years of the Bush Administration.  Perhaps a better question is:  Why has NO ONE done anything definitive about illegal immigration?

Just some food for thought.  Doesn't the very need to debate this issue cause anyone a problem.  WTF do we have in DC if the concept of American taxpayers providing health coverage for illegal aliens (read: criminal foreigners who have invaded our country) even needs to be thought about.

I've done it weeks ago and posted here.  You keep asking me to look things up for you.  I'm not your librarian or your fact checker.  Just go back a few pages or use the forum search button.  As a staunch conservative, you should at least have some sense of personal responsibility.  Take some responsibility for your own education instead of asking me to do everything for you.
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

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