What are public schools *really* doing?

Started by Patriot, November 27, 2009, 09:52:17 PM

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Quote from: Anmar on November 29, 2009, 11:35:16 PM
lol.  Is it any surprise that billy is the "do as i say not as i do" type?

When you get down to it Anmar ALL of us are :)

I'm in the same boat as him on this one :P

srkruzich

Quote from: Anmar on November 29, 2009, 11:35:16 PM
lol.  Is it any surprise that billy is the "do as i say not as i do" type?
Billy is also free white and over 21.  His kids aren't.  His house his rules.  I had the same rules in my home and my kids also to this day say yes ma'am and no ma'am yes sir no sir and are respectful and their over 21.

They learned that respect is demanded of them as children, but earned when they are adults by being respectful.
Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

Anmar

what does being white have to do with anything?
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

Diane Amberg

Varmit,I must have been under a rock during the 90's if the Malcolm X thing was big on shirts. I remember the ugly music, but not around here so much. Probably in some of the rough parts of Wilmington. I just don't remember the shirts though. It was about that time that a lot of schools put a stop to "message" t-shirts of any kind except sports logo shirts, provided they didn't have an offensive message.

jarhead

Lighten up Anmar. Being" free , white and 21" is just an old saying, back before your time.

Anmar

"The chief source of problems is solutions"

Diane Amberg

We talked about that old saying on here one time. Perhaps you hadn't joined us yet. I think we had been talking about voting.

Warph

Quote from: jarhead on November 30, 2009, 10:47:12 AM
Lighten up Anmar. Being" free , white and 21" is just an old saying, back before your time.

Mooncalf is just getting his kicks, Jarhead.  He's doing what he only knows how to do....  stirring the pot....  maybe he doesn't like whites?   Hmmmm.... that could be.
"Every once in a while I just have a compelling need to shoot my mouth off." 
--Warph

"If you don't have a sense of humor, you probably don't have any sense at all."
-- Warph

"A gun is like a parachute.  If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."

Warph



Diane, Malcome X and Che Guevara shirts were very big in the 90's and still are today in some parts of the Hood.  I used to have a Che shirt that I wore saying, "Che (his picture) Sucks!



But getting back to "What are public schools *really* doing?"  There is a lot of good pro and con that has been mentioned on this post... but what I have to say.... getting down to the nitty-gritty.... is.... People.... I hate to tell you this but, the Public Schools system of the US has crashed and burned!  No longer are our children the best educated in the world so get over it.  Now.. today... 2009... our scholars rank among the less well educated even among a few of the third world countries.  This is a SHAME we have brought upon ourselves by inviting the Federal Government and the Unions into our schools.

One-room schoolhouses turned out scholars of unequaled accomplishment when compared to today's graduates.  A high school education... just 50 years ago.... is the equivalent of a college degree today.  Some of our Public School teachers are barely qualified to teach.  But, they have a Union to see that they are paid well, whether the can teach or not!  Oh, you thought teachers unions were for the welfare of the students ???  Surely you jest!

Our local school boards have gorged themselves from the federal trough at the expense of local control of the curriculum and the rules and regulations.

Pupils are not challenged by the courses they study and fall short of goals set by the federal Government.  So, the schools are now "teaching the tests".  Indoctrinate the students in the questions and answers on the test in hopes of attaining the sought after number of students passing the tests.  A well-rounded education is lost to the efforts to make a good showing on the tests.

Students are forced to remain in school even though they have no interest in what is being taught and are a distraction to that handful of youngsters who really do want to learn.

Self-esteem is the number one course of study.  Our students are dumb as fence posts but, by golly, they think highly of themselves!  They can't read their diplomas but they sure do feel good about it!

So what do we do about it?

Maybe I'm old fashion but, take back our schools for a start.  Refuse federal money and all the strings that go with it.  If we have to teach school, again, in one-room school buildings, then so be it.

Test the teachers.  If they have no business in a classroom, see to it that they are removed.

One way of doing it is make school voluntary.  If a student does not want to be there, then don't make them.  This will allow those students who do wish an education to get one without the continuous interruptions by the bored kids who'd rather be someplace else.

Discipline?  Yes.  Expulsion.  Period.  Expel troublemakers for a few days, a few weeks, or a full school year, or even forever, depending on the infraction.  Make school a serious business again.  We owe an environment, suitable for learning, to those students who are there for the purpose of learning and making a better life for themselves, their families, and for our society.

We can take our schools back.  We have to want to do so and we have to be ready to make the sacrifices necessary to insure our children a good education, not the pitiful excuse for an education they are getting now.

One of a parent's primary obligations, as a parent, is to see that their children have a shot at the brass ring in life.  The first, and most fundamental, step in that process is a solid education.

Government vouchers were killed by the teachers unions because they rightly understood that the public school system would crumble, and collapse, as parents pulled their children out of those near useless institutions and placed them in private schools where they, the parents, had some say, and some control, over the quality of education their kids were getting.

The public school system is near collapse right now.  I don't think a collapse of the US Public Education System would be a bad thing, actually.  When an institution is so badly damaged, and no longer serves it's primary purpose, it should be trashed and a new institution begun in its place.  We desperately need to create an institution to educate our kids.

Parents, we owe our kids that!  We owe them a chance to make the best of their talents.  We owe them a shot at a good, solid, education.  Get them out of the public schools and into a private, or parochial, school where there are qualified teachers who still have an incentive to teach our kids.... the will to teach our kids... and the desire to teach our kids.

The public school system in America is a failure.  It should be put out of its misery.... my two-cents on this subject, anyway.


"Every once in a while I just have a compelling need to shoot my mouth off." 
--Warph

"If you don't have a sense of humor, you probably don't have any sense at all."
-- Warph

"A gun is like a parachute.  If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."

frawin

Quote from: Warph on November 30, 2009, 11:09:30 AM
Mooncalf is just getting his kicks, Jarhead.  He's doing what he only knows how to do....  stirring the pot....  maybe he doesn't like whites?   Hmmmm.... that could be.
WARPH, I don't think most Muslims like whites.

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