Fort Hood - A Deliberate Act Of Terrorism!

[Diane Amberg]

Varmit, how do you know who has "ties " to terrorists? People don't trust our own intellegence any more. Some of you have made comments about how poor it is because it's "dose Gubberment" people again. They were wrong on Sadam apparently and the Gov't people over there are so corrupt, and have been for so many years, who does anyone trust and believe? This is a very tough subject.

[srkruzich]

The Nazi's said the same thing about the Jews.

No they didn't, the nazis said the jews were inferior and stole and were the cause of their financial woes because they were thieves.  Big difference there anmar.  Muslims are killing indiscriminately every day anyone that is not muslim or is American or one of their allies.  The last i checked, the jews did not go blowing up german citizens, nor hacking their heads off with machetes because they weren't jews.

[srkruzich]

Varmit, how do you know who has "ties " to terrorists? People don't trust our own intellegence any more. Some of you have made comments about how poor it is because it's "dose Gubberment" people again. They were wrong on Sadam apparently and the Gov't people over there are so corrupt, and have been for so many years, who does anyone trust and believe? This is a very tough subject.

Follow the money. 

[Jo McDonald]

I cannot believe ANYONE would put up a defense for a terrorist !  How can you do that?

[srkruzich]

I cannot believe ANYONE would put up a defense for a terrorist !  How can you do that?

Well Jo the ones he's defending are the ones who support the terrorists with their money and aid. They aren't terrorists but they are traitors. 
Not all muslims are terrorists, and traitors but the current day terrorists are muslim and the ones who defend them and support them are traitors.

[Varmit]

The Nazi's said the same thing about the Jews.

That may be true and your Nazi comparison would be accurate if the Jews had done the things that muslims are doing. 

[Anmar]

Steve and Jo, thats a pretty flagrant mischaracteriziation of my viewpoint.  I'm shocked that you would call me a traitor.  

I'm see myself as defending the constitutional rights of Americans, regardless of their religion or ethnicity.  Its easy for all of us to sit around and claim our God given rights for ourselves, but a true believer of the constitution will recognize that all American citizens, regardless of creed, origin, or belief is also deserving of those rights.  

If a crime is committed, and rights need to be taken away, we have a system for doing that.  Trying to send them to other countries is stupid, sorry billy.  What makes you think they won't stop trying to blow things up from another country?  Certainly some organizations have been investigated and steps have been taken, however we need to be very careful in the powers that we grant our government to undertake these investigations.  Billy, you rail against the patriot act and I agree with you on many of those points.  Remember that we have the patriot act because the Neocons were able to scare people using the attacks of 9/11.  

Many of you claim that Obama is a socialist, and that you all want to limit the pwoers of government.  Why then would you want to give the federal government more power?  If you decide to allow people to be persecuted for their thoughts, where is the line drawn?  Whats to stop Rahmbo from  deciding one day that he wants the conservative right wing to be imprisoned and deported for their thoughts?

All of you rail against muslims and characterize them as terrorists.  Of the 24 acts of terror committed here in the USA over the last 3 years, only 2 were committed by muslims.  In an article from 2005, the FBI says that the two largest threats in the USA of terrorism are the ELF (environmental, animal rights groups) and far-right fringe groups.  Frankly, I believe the intelligence community were so blind to this because they were being used to watch right wing and left wing fringe groups.  In a few months, those resources and whatever new powers you give them are once again going to be focused on those political groups.

I think a lot of you are way off base on this one.  In the words of Ben Franklin

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

The truth is that many of you are fairweather folk.  When times are good and life is a little easier, you all like to talk about how great this country is (and it is great) but once something negative happens, you want to throw all that greatness out the window because you're scared and you want revenge.  Sorry folks, thats not how freedom works.

[srkruzich]

Steve and Jo, thats a pretty flagrant mischaracteriziation of my viewpoint.  I'm shocked that you would call me a traitor.  

Do you support terrorists financially, or give aid and comfort to them?  IF you do then yeah you would be. Thats the definition that qualifies one to be a traitor. 

I'm see myself as defending the constitutional rights of Americans, regardless of their religion or ethnicity.  Its easy for all of us to sit around and claim our God given rights for ourselves, but a true believer of the constitution will recognize that all American citizens, regardless of creed, origin, or belief is also deserving of those rights.  

I'm sorry but IF a American Citizen gave aid and comfort to the enemy, or supported the enemy financially they forfeit their constitutional rights. THey are traitors. 

Many of you claim that Obama is a socialist, and that you all want to limit the pwoers of government.  Why then would you want to give the federal government more power?  If you decide to allow people to be persecuted for their thoughts, where is the line drawn?

whos persecuting anyone for their thoughts?  We have been talking about those that support and give aid and comfort to the enemy.  Thats actions not thoughts.

All of you rail against muslims and characterize them as terrorists.  

No we said that were at war with muslim terrorists. 

Of the 24 acts of terror committed here in the USA over the last 3 years, only 2 were committed by muslims.  In an article from 2005, the FBI says that the two largest threats in the USA of terrorism are the ELF (environmental, animal rights groups) and far-right fringe groups.  Frankly, I believe the intelligence community were so blind to this because they were being used to watch right wing and left wing fringe groups.  In a few months, those resources and whatever new powers you give them are once again going to be focused on those political groups.

I agree, we should treat them as terrorists and anyone supporting them are traitors too.  THe only way terrorists can survive is through the financial support as well as aid and comfort to those who will commit terror acts.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

The truth is that many of you are fairweather folk.  When times are good and life is a little easier, you all like to talk about how great this country is (and it is great) but once something negative happens, you want to throw all that greatness out the window because you're scared and you want revenge.  Sorry folks, thats not how freedom works.

I don't think thats the case. I know i have warned against islamic terror for 20+ years. As well as this government circumventing constitutional authority given.  I used to stay under the radar but now we need to be standing out there telling folks.

[Anmar]

Steve, sorry if i misread your previous post, it looked as though you were calling me a traitor

[srkruzich]

BTW while we have ELF, ALF, PETA, and ahost of other terror groups, the one that is the most dangerous at this point in time, the one that kills innocents indescriminatly is Islam.  That is why their mentioned the most.  

What is surprising is that you fail to recognize that what folks ahve been telling us for years what will happen is happening now.  Think that the fort hood attack was a quirk? think again. They planned and coordinated that attack.  Its purpose is to demoralize the troops.  We will see in the near future if this administration doesn't get off its butt with alqueda, we will see IEDs on our interstates, in our malls, parks, schools ect.  Imagine if a series of IEDS were setup in a interstate corridor with rushour traffic in a metro area.  What about a mall at christmas time.   we have trains subways, all kinds of places that would be easy to get to.

Keeping it over on their turf was the best way to stop them from coming here.