AARP shows its true colors

[Patriot]

The AARP (Association for the Abolition of Retired Persons) today endorsed the 2000 page plus government takeover of the health care of the citizens of the US.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/05/health.care/index.html

We are seeing what many suspected for some time:  AARP is nothing but a socialist leaning leach sucking, money out of the limited budgets of our seniors!  Boycott them!

Time is short and the costs are high (and NOT just in dollars).  Talking to your state and federal representatives is critical, but just as important is to engage people you know to stand up, speak up and be heard.  The powers being assumed by the current congressional leadership and administration are way beyond the pale.

[Anmar]

Please explain how the bill is a takeover of healthcare.

[srkruzich]

The AARP (Association for the Abolition of Retired Persons) today endorsed the 2000 page plus government takeover of the health care of the citizens of the US.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/05/health.care/index.html

We are seeing what many suspected for some time:  AARP is nothing but a socialist leaning leach sucking, money out of the limited budgets of our seniors!  Boycott them!

Time is short and the costs are high (and NOT just in dollars).  Talking to your state and federal representatives is critical, but just as important is to engage people you know to stand up, speak up and be heard.  The powers being assumed by the current congressional leadership and administration are way beyond the pale.

I plan on it.  The Bastards have jacked me by raising my drug coverage premiums by 250 dollars and are dropping me cause i can't pay it.   THeir all anticipating a win by the government and are jacking rates up while they can.

[srkruzich]

Please explain how the bill is a takeover of healthcare.

Lets see, to begin with, forcing a cap on what doctors charge, medicines, is pure 100% socialism.  Regulating a free market is a takeover.  Discussed this bill with my doctor a couple days ago and after reading the bill, he said that will put him out of business and close the hospital that does my heart care.  They are making it illegal for doctors to own and operate hospitals that specialize in things like heart care.  SO basically what these bastards are telling me is your sick, suck air you don't get good quality healthcare. 

They have already grabbed banking, automotive industry, turned them into a state owned entity and NOW are setting their sights for 1/6th of our GDP to grab. 
They had better be careful.  They piss off the bluehairs, and they have nothing to lose. Don't put it past them to pick up a gun and go to washington.

[Anmar]

I'll go ahead and call BS on that.  Your doctor hasn't read the bill, nobody outside of congress or the exec branch has read the bill as it is now.

Furthermore, regulating is not a takeover.  A takeover is what you would call nationalization. 

[Warph]

I'll go ahead and call BS on that.  Your doctor hasn't read the bill, nobody outside of congress or the exec branch has read the bill as it is now.

Furthermore, regulating is not a takeover.  A takeover is what you would call nationalization. 

Well.... lets see.  Here are a few items from HR 3200.... and according to my congressman, Trent Franks, the word is in congress that most of these have been included in the new bill.... Warph




Sec. 113, Pg. 21-22 of the Health Care (HC) Bill MANDATES a government audit of the books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self-insure in order to "ensure that the law does not provide incentives for small and mid-size employers to self-insure"!
Sec. 122, Pg. 29, Lines 4-16 - YOUR HEALTH CARE WILL BE RATIONED!
Sec. 123, Pg. 30 - THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE deciding what treatments and benefits you get.
Sec. 142, Pg. 42 - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your benefits for you. You have no choice!
Sec. 152, Pg. 50-51 - HC will be provided to ALL NON-US citizens.
Sec. 163, Pg. 58-59 beginning at line 5 - Government will have real-time access to individual's finances & a National ID health care card will be issued!
Sec. 163, Pg. 59, Lines 21-24 - Government will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
Sec. 164, Pg. 65 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions & community organizations (ACORN).
Sec. 201, Pg. 72, Lines 8-14 - Government is creating an HC Exchange to bring private plans under government control.
Sec. 203, Pg. 84 - Government mandates ALL benefit packages for private Health Care plans in the exchange.
Sec. 203, Pg. 85, Line 7 - Specifications of benefit levels for plans means that the government will define your HC plan and has the ability to ration your health care!
Sec. 205, Pg. 95, Lines 8-18 - The government will use groups (i.e., ACORN & AmeriCorps) to "inform and educate" (sign up) individuals for government plan.
Sec. 205, Pg. 102, Lines 12-18 - Medicaid-eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No freedom to choose.
Sec. 223, Pg. 124, Lines 24-25 - No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No "administrative of judicial review" against a government monopoly.
Sec. 225, Pg. 127, Lines 1-16 - Doctors – the government will tell YOU what you can make. "The Secretary shall provide for the annual participation of physicians under the public health insurance option, for which payment may be made for services furnished during the year."
Sec. 312, Pg. 145, Lines 15-17 - Employers MUST auto-enroll employees into public option plan.
Sec. 313, Pg. 149, Lines 16-23 - ANY employer with payroll $400,000 and above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll.
Sec. 313, Pg. 150, Lines 9-13 - Businesses with payroll between $251,000 and $400,000 who do not provide public option pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.
Sec. 401.59B, Pg. 167, Lines 18-23 - ANY individual who does not have acceptable care, according to government, will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Sec. 59B, Pg. 170, Line 1 - Any NONRESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay for their health care.)
Sec. 431, Pg. 195, Lines 1-3 - Officers and employees of HC Administration (government) will have access to ALL Americans' financial and personal records.
Sec. 441, Pg. 203, Lines 14-15 - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." Yes, it says that.
Sec. 1121, Pg. 239, Lines 14-24 - The government will limit and reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income and poor are the ones affected.
Sec. 1121, Pg. 241, Lines 6-8 - Doctors, it does not matter what specialty you have; you'll all be paid the same. "Service categories established under this paragraph shall apply without regard to the specialty of the physician furnishing the service."
Sec. 1122, Pg. 253, Lines 10-23 - The government "validates work relative value units" (sets value of doctor's time), professional judgment, methods etc. (defining the value of humans).
Sec. 1131, Pg. 265 - Government mandates and controls productivity for private HC industries. "Incorporating Productivity Improvements into Market Basket Updates that Do Not Already Incorporate Such Improvements."
Sec. 1141, Pg. 268 - The government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
Sec. 1145, Pg. 272 - Treatment of certain cancer hospitals: Cancer patients and their treatment are open to rationing!
Sec. 1151, Pg. 280 - The government will penalize hospitals for what government deems preventable readmissions (incentives for hospital to not treat and release).
Sec. 1151, Pg. 298, Lines 9-11 - Doctors, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission and the government will penalize you for that action.
Sec. 1156, Pg. 317, Lines 13-20 - "PROHIBITION on physician ownership or Investment." Government tells doctors what/how much they can own.
Sec. 1156, Pg. 317-318, Lines 21-25, 1-3 - "PROHIBITION on Expansion of Facility Capacity." The government will mandate that hospitals cannot expand ("number of operating rooms or beds").
Sec. 1156, Pg. 321, Lines 2-13 - Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required.
Sec. 1162, Pg. 335-339, Lines 16-25 - The government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures. Rationing.
Sec. 1162, Pg. 341, Lines 3-9 - The government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans (Part B), HMOs, etc. This will force people into a government plan. "The Secretary may determine not to identify a Medicare Advantage plan if the Secretary has identified deficiencies in the plan's compliance with rules for such plans under this part."
Sec. 1177, Pg. 354 - Government will RESTRICT enrollment of special needs people! "Extension of Authority of Special Needs Plans to Restrict Enrollment."
Sec. 1191, Pg. 379 - Government creates more bureaucracy – "Telehealth Advisory Committee." HC by phone or the Internet – dial 1 for your health care advice?
Sec. 1233, Pg. 425, Lines 4-12 - Government mandates Advance (Death) Care Planning consultation. Think Senior Citizens and end of life. END-OF-LIFE COUNSELING. SOME IN THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED RATIONING HEALTH CARE FOR THE ELDERLY.
Sec. 1233, Pg. 425, Lines 17-19 - Government WILL instruct and consult regarding living wills and durable powers of attorney. Mandatory end-of-life planning!
Sec. 1233, Pg. 425-426, Lines 22-25, 1-3 - Government provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
Sec. 1233, Pg. 427, Lines 15-24 - Government mandates program for orders for life-sustaining treatment (i.e. end of life). The government has a say in how your life ends.
Sec. 1233, Pg. 429, Lines 1-9 - An "advanced care planning consult" will be used as patient's health deteriorates.
Sec. 1233, Pg. 429, Lines 10-12 - "Advanced Care Consultation" may include an ORDER for end-of-life plans - from the government.
Sec. 1233, Pg. 429, Lines 13-25 - The government will specify which Doctors (professional authority under state law includes Nurse Practitioners or Physician's Assistants) can write an end-of-life order.
Sec. 1233, Pg. 430, Lines 11-15 - The government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life, according to preset methods (not individually decided).
Sec. 1302, Pg. 468, Lines 16-21 - "Community-Based Home Medical Services means a nonprofit community-based or state-based organization."
Sec. 1302, Pg. 472, Lines 14-17 - PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATION: One monthly payment to a community-based organization. Like ACORN?
Sec. 1308, Pg. 489 - The government will cover Marriage and Family therapy. This will involve government control of your marriage.
Sec. 1308, Pg. 494-498 - The government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating and rationing those services.
Sec. 1401, Pg. 502 - Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research Established. Big Brother is watching how your treatment works.
Sec. 1401, Pg. 503, Lines 13-19 - The government will build registries and data networks from YOUR electronic medical records. "The Center may secure directly from any department or agency of the United States information necessary to enable it to carry out this section."
Sec. 1401, Pg. 503, Lines 21-25 - The government may secure data directly from any department or agency of the US, including your data.
Sec. 1401, Pg. 503, Lines 21-25 - The "Center" will collect data both "published and unpublished" (that means public & your private information).
Sec. 1401, Pg. 506, Lines 19-21 - An "Appointed Clinical Perspective Advisory Panel" will advise The Center and recommend policies that would allow for public access of data.
Sec. 1401, Pg. 518, Lines 21-25 - The Commission will have input from HC consumer representatives.
Sec. 1411, Pg. 524, Lines 18-22 - Establishes the "Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund." More taxes for ALL.
Sec. 1441, Pg. 621, Lines 20-25 - The government will define "NEW Quality" measures in HC. Since when does government know about quality?
Sec. 1442, Pg. 622, Lines 2-9 - To pay for the Quality Standards, government will transfer money from "qualified entities" (government Trust Funds) to other government Trust Funds. More Taxes.
Sec. 1442, Pg. 624, Lines 19-23 - Qualified Entities: "The Secretary shall ensure that the entity is a public, nonprofit or academic institution with technical expertise in the area of health quality measurement."
Sec. 1442, Pg. 623, Lines 5-10 - "Quality" measures shall be designed to assess outcomes and functional status of patients.
Sec. 1442, Pg. 623, Lines 15-17 - "Quality" measures shall be designed to profile you, including race, age, gender, place of residence, etc.
Sec. 1443, Pg. 628 - The government will give "Multi-Stake Holders" pre-rulemaking input into selection of "quality" measures.
Sec. 1443, Pg. 630-31, Lines 9-24, 1-9 - Those Multi-Stake Holder groups include unions and groups like ACORN deciding what constitutes quality.
Sec. 1444, Pg. 632, Lines 14-25 - The government may implement any "Quality measure" of HC services that bureaucrats see fit.
Sec. 1444, Pg. 632-333, Lines 14-25, 1-9 - The Secretary may issue nonendorsed "Quality Measures" for physician and dialysis services.
Sec. 1251 (beginning), Pg. 634 to 652 - "Physician Payments Sunshine Provision" – government wants to shine sunlight on Doctors but not government. "Reports on financial relationships between manufacturers and distributors . . . and between physicians and other health care entities."
Sec. 1501 (beginning), Pg. 659-670 - Doctors in Residency – government will tell you where your residency will be, thus where you'll live.
Sec. 1503 (beginning), Pg. 675-685 - Government will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency programs, including teaching hospitals.
Sec. 1601 (beginning), Pg. 685-699 - Increased funding to fight waste, fraud, and abuse. (Like the government with an $18 million website?)
Sec. 1619, Pg. 700-703 - If your part of HC plan isn't in the government's HC Exchange but you qualify for federal aid, you don't have to pay.
Sec. 1128G, Pg. 704-708 - If the Secretary determines there is a "significant risk of fraudulent activity," on HC provider or supplier, the government can do a background check.
Sec. 1632, Pg. 710, Lines 8-14 - The Secretary has broad powers to deny HC providers and suppliers admittance into HC Exchange. Your doctor could be thrown out of business.
Sec. 1637, Pg. 718-719 - ANY Doctor who orders durable medical equipment or home medical services is REQUIRED to be enrolled in, or eligible for, Medicare.
Sec. 1639, Pg. 721 - Government MANDATES that Doctors must have face-to-face with patient to certify patient for home health services.
Sec. 1639, Pg. 723-24, Lines 23-25, 1-5 - The same government certifications will apply to Medicaid and CHIP (Children's health plan: Your kids).
Sec. 1640, Pg. 723, Lines 16-22 - The government reserves right to apply face-to-face certification for patient to ANY other HC service.
Sec. 1651, Pg. 734, Lines 16-25 - Proposes, for law enforcement sake, that the Secretary of HHS will give Attorney General access to ALL medical data.
Sec. 1701 (beginning), Pg. 739-756 - The government sets guidelines for subsidizing the uninsured (and you have to pay for them).
Sec. 1704, Pg. 756-761 - The government will shift burden of payments to Disproportionate Share Hospitals (DSH) to states (your taxes).
Sec. 1711, Pg. 764 - The government will require preventative services - including vaccinations (no choice).
Sec. 1713, Pg. 768 - Government-determined Nurse Home Visitation Services (Hello union paybacks).
Sec. 1713, Pg. 768, Lines 3-5 - Nurse Home Visit Services – Service #1: "Improving maternal or child health and pregnancy outcomes or increasing birth intervals between pregnancies." Compulsory ABORTIONS?
Sec. 1713, Pg. 768, Lines 11-14 - Nurse Home Visit Services include determinations of economic self-sufficiency, employment advancement and school-readiness.
Sec. 1714, Pg. 769 - Federal government mandates eligibility for State Family Planning Services. Abortion and government control intertwined.
Sec. 1733, Pg. 788-798 - Government will set and mandate drug prices, therefore controlling which drugs are brought to market. (Goodbye innovation and private research.)
Sec. 1744, Pg. 796-799 - Establishes PAYMENTS for graduate medical education. The government will now control your doctor's education.
Sec.1751, Pg. 800 - The government will decide which Health Care conditions will be paid. Say "RATION!"
Sec. 1759, Pg. 809 - Billing Agents, clearinghouses, or other alternate payees are required to register. The government takes over private payment systems too.
Sec. 1801, Pg. 819-823 - The Government will identify individuals "likely to be ineligible" for subsidies. Will access all personal financial information.
Sec. 1802, Pg. 823-828 - Government sets up Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund. Another bottomless tax pit.
Sec. 4375, Pg. 828-832, Lines 12-16 - Government will impose a fee on ALL private health insurance plans, including self-insured, to pay for Trust Fund!
Sec. 4377, Pg. 835, Lines 11-13 - Fees imposed by government for Trust Fund shall be treated as if they were taxes.
Sec. 440, Pg. 837-839 - The government will design and implement Home Visitation Program for families with young kids and families that are expecting children.
Sec. 1904, Pg. 843-844 - This Home Visitation Program includes the government coming into your house and teaching/telling you how to parent!
Sec. 2002, Pg. 858 - The government will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of $88,800,000,000 (That's Billions).
Sec. 2201, Pg. 864 - The government will MANDATE the establishment of a National Health Service Corps.
Sec. 2201 - "Fulfillment of Obligated Service Requirement"
Sec. 2201, Pg. 864-875 - The NHS Corps is a program where Doctors perform mandatory HC for 2 years for partial loan repayment.
Sec. 2212, Pg. 875-891 - The government takes over the education of Medical students and Doctors through education and loans.
Sec. 340L, Pg. 897 - The government will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps to ensure an adequate supply of public health professionals.
Sec. 340L, Pg. 897 - The Public Health Workforce Corps shall consist of civilian employees of the United States as Secretary deems necessary.
Sec. 340L, Pg. 897 - The Public Health Workforce Corps shall consist of officers of Regular and Reserve Corps of Service.
Sec. 340M, Pg. 899 - The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians. Will animals have heath care too?
Sec. 2233, Pg. 909 - The government will develop, build and run Public Health Training Centers.
Sec. 2241, Pg. 912-913 - Government starts a HC affirmative action program under the guise of diversity scholarships.
Sec. 2251, Pg. 915 - Government MANDATES cultural and linguistic competency training for HC professionals.
Sec. 3111, Pg. 931 - The government will establish a Preventative and Wellness Trust fund, with initial cost of $30,800,000,000 (Billions more).
Sec. 3121, Pg. 934, Lines 21-22 - Government will identify specific goals and objectives for prevention and wellness activities. More control of your life.
Sec. 3121, Pg. 935, Lines 1-2 - The government will develop "Healthy People & National Public Health Performance Standards." They will tell us what to eat?
Sec. 3131, Pg. 942, Lines 22-25 - "Task Force on Community Preventive Services." More government? Under the Offices of Surgeon General, Public Health Services, Minority Health and Women's Health.
Sec. 3141, Pg. 949-979 - BIG GOVERNMENT core public health infrastructure includes workforce capacity, lab systems, health information systems, etc.
Sec. 2511, Pg. 992 - Government will establish school-based "health" clinics. Your children will be indoctrinated and your grandchildren may be aborted!
Sec. 399Z-1, Pg. 993 - School-Based Health Clinics will be integrated into the school environment. More government brainwashing in school.
Sec. 2521, Pg. 1000 - The government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will you be tracked?

[Anmar]

So i looked up HR3200 and found the bill.  Like i said, this isn't the bill thats going to be voted on.  The bill thats going to be voted on is still being written.  I figured, maybe the final bill will be based on HR3200, so i looked up the first section in your list.

SEC. 122. ESSENTIAL BENEFITS PACKAGE DEFINED.

(a) In General- In this division, the term 'essential benefits package' means health benefits coverage, consistent with standards adopted under section 124 to ensure the provision of quality health care and financial security, that--

(1) provides payment for the items and services described in subsection (b) in accordance with generally accepted standards of medical or other appropriate clinical or professional practice;

(2) limits cost-sharing for such covered health care items and services in accordance with such benefit standards, consistent with subsection (c);

(3) does not impose any annual or lifetime limit on the coverage of covered health care items and services;

(4) complies with section 115(a) (relating to network adequacy); and

(5) is equivalent, as certified by Office of the Actuary of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, to the average prevailing employer-sponsored coverage.

(b) Minimum Services to Be Covered- Subject to subsection (d), the items and services described in this subsection are the following:

(1) Hospitalization.

(2) Outpatient hospital and outpatient clinic services, including emergency department services.

(3) Professional services of physicians and other health professionals.

(4) Such services, equipment, and supplies incident to the services of a physician's or a health professional's delivery of care in institutional settings, physician offices, patients' homes or place of residence, or other settings, as appropriate.

(5) Prescription drugs.

(6) Rehabilitative and habilitative services.

(7) Mental health and substance use disorder services, including behavioral health treatments.

( Preventive services, including those services recommended with a grade of A or B by the Task Force on Clinical Preventive Services and those vaccines recommended for use by the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

(9) Maternity care.

(10) Well baby and well child care; treatment of a congenital or developmental deformity, disease, or injury; and oral health, vision, and hearing services, equipment, and supplies at least for children under 21 years of age.

(c) Requirements Relating to Cost-sharing and Minimum Actuarial Value-

(1) NO COST-SHARING FOR PREVENTIVE SERVICES- There shall be no cost-sharing under the essential benefits package for preventive items and services (as specified under the benefit standards), including well baby and well child care.

(2) ANNUAL LIMITATION-

(A) ANNUAL LIMITATION- The cost-sharing incurred under the essential benefits package with respect to an individual (or family) for a year does not exceed the applicable level specified in subparagraph (B).

(B) APPLICABLE LEVEL- The applicable level specified in this subparagraph for Y1 is $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 for a family. Such levels shall be increased (rounded to the nearest $100) for each subsequent year by the annual percentage increase in the Consumer Price Index (United States city average) applicable to such year.

(C) USE OF COPAYMENTS- In establishing cost-sharing levels for basic, enhanced, and premium plans under this subsection, the Secretary shall, to the maximum extent possible, use only copayments and not coinsurance.

(3) MINIMUM ACTUARIAL VALUE-

(A) IN GENERAL- The cost-sharing under the essential benefits package shall be designed to provide a level of coverage that is designed to provide benefits that are actuarially equivalent to approximately 70 percent of the full actuarial value of the benefits provided under the reference benefits package described in subparagraph (B).

(B) REFERENCE BENEFITS PACKAGE DESCRIBED- The reference benefits package described in this subparagraph is the essential benefits package if there were no cost-sharing imposed.

(d) Abortion Coverage Prohibited as Part of Minimum Benefits Package-

(1) PROHIBITION OF REQUIRED COVERAGE- The Health Benefits Advisory Committee may not recommend under section 123(b) and the Secretary may not adopt in standards under section 124(b), the services described in paragraph (4)(A) or (4)(B) as part of the essential benefits package and the Commissioner may not require such services for qualified health benefits plans to participate in the Health Insurance Exchange.

(2) VOLUNTARY CHOICE OF COVERAGE BY PLAN- In the case of a qualified health benefits plan, the plan is not required (or prohibited) under this Act from providing coverage of services described in paragraph (4)(A) or (4)(B) and the QHBP offering entity shall determine whether such coverage is provided.

(3) COVERAGE UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH INSURANCE OPTION- The public health insurance option shall provide coverage for services described in paragraph (4)(B). Nothing in this Act shall be construed as preventing the public health insurance option from providing for or prohibiting coverage of services described in paragraph (4)(A).

(4) ABORTION SERVICES-

(A) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS PROHIBITED- The services described in this subparagraph are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is not permitted, based on the law as in effect as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning of the plan year involved.

(B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS ALLOWED- The services described in this subparagraph are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is permitted, based on the law as in effect as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning of the plan year involved.

(e) Stand-alone Coverage-

(1) NO APPLICATION TO ADULT COVERAGE- Nothing in this subtitle shall be construed as requiring an individual who is 21 years of age or older to be provided stand-alone dental-only or vision-only coverage.

(2) TREATMENT OF COMBINED COVERAGE- The combination of stand-alone coverage described in paragraph (1) and a qualified health benefits plan without coverage of such oral and vision services shall be treated as satisfying the essential benefits package under this division.

Please show me where the whole rationing thing is in there, because I'm just not seeing it.  I know its a little difficult to read, but surely if we put our heads together, we can figure it out. 

I'm not in favor of a takeover, but this bill isn't a takeover.  Thats just some BS being put out there by insurance companies and big business.

[Anmar]

so i've now read through the first 8 sections you've posted, Not a single claim is anything close to whats actually in the bill.  Figures...

[Warph]

Bill HR3200 http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.txt.pdf

Anmar, stop being a mooncalf and follow the directions.  You stopped at pg. 28... if you went to pg. 29 like it said and read lines 4 through 16 you would have seen I was right.  If you go to and read Sec. 123, pg. 30, you will see that: THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE deciding what treatments and benefits you get.  Just go down the line and pay attention to the page numbers and I think you will find them all there.  Time to hit it.... I got a four person scramble at 9:15 am.  Let me know how you came out.  

BTW, Here is Sec. 122, Pg. 29, Lines 4-16 - YOUR HEALTH CARE WILL BE RATIONED!

(2) ANNUAL LIMITATION.—

4 (A) ANNUAL LIMITATION.—The cost-sharing

5 incurred under the essential benefits

6 package with respect to an individual (or family) for

7 a year does not exceed the applicable level

8 specified in subparagraph (B).

9 (B) APPLICABLE LEVEL.—The applicable

10 level specified in this subparagraph for Y1 is

11 $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 for a

12 family. Such levels shall be increased (rounded

13 to the nearest $100) for each subsequent year

14 by the annual percentage increase in the

15 consumer Price Index (United States city average)

16 applicable to such year.

[srkruzich]

Bill HR3200 http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.txt.pdf

Anmar, stop being a mooncalf and follow the directions.  You stopped at pg. 28... if you went to pg. 29 like it said and read lines 4 through 16 you would have seen I was right.  If you go to and read Sec. 123, pg. 30, you will see that: THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE deciding what treatments and benefits you get.  Just go down the line and pay attention to the page numbers and I think you will find them all there.  Time to hit it.... I got a four person scramble at 9:15 am.  Let me know how you came out.  

BTW, Here is Sec. 122, Pg. 29, Lines 4-16 - YOUR HEALTH CARE WILL BE RATIONED!

(2) ANNUAL LIMITATION.—

4 (A) ANNUAL LIMITATION.—The cost-sharing

5 incurred under the essential benefits

6 package with respect to an individual (or family) for

7 a year does not exceed the applicable level

8 specified in subparagraph (B).

9 (B) APPLICABLE LEVEL.—The applicable

10 level specified in this subparagraph for Y1 is

11 $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 for a

12 family. Such levels shall be increased (rounded

13 to the nearest $100) for each subsequent year

14 by the annual percentage increase in the

15 consumer Price Index (United States city average)

16 applicable to such year.

Yep that's Rationing.  You gotta pay 5000k as a individual out of pocket before the first dime is paid by the Government.  This is what insurance companies call a Catastrophic policy that normally goes along with a HSF or a FSA.  At least with a insurance plan you meet your deductible first of 250 or 500 then pay 20% out of pocket til you reach the 5k out of pocket expense.
And notice it goes up every year.