Experimenting with Education

Started by redcliffsw, October 12, 2009, 05:48:11 PM

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Anmar

Quote from: srkruzich on October 27, 2009, 08:46:28 AM


Well that does make it easier for the kids that are homeschooled or private schooled by cutting down the competition for the leadership positions and good jobs out there.


It all depends on who's doing the teaching/parenting.  Going to a public school doesn't kill creativity if the parents do their job.
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

pamsback

Quote from: Anmar on October 27, 2009, 09:10:35 AM
Quote from: srkruzich on October 27, 2009, 08:46:28 AM


Well that does make it easier for the kids that are homeschooled or private schooled by cutting down the competition for the leadership positions and good jobs out there.


It all depends on who's doing the teaching/parenting.  Going to a public school doesn't kill creativity if the parents do their job.

Amen and HALLELUYAH..............

flintauqua

QuoteShortt also cites

Steve, who is Shortt?

flintauqua

Quote from: srkruzich on October 27, 2009, 08:05:24 AM
State-sponsored schools were not part of the original make-up of this country. None of the Founders – all of whom were educated at home or privately – saw providing compulsory, state-sponsored education as a proper function of the central government, which is why education is not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution.


After the Declaration of Independence, 14 states had their own constitutions by 1791, and out of the 14, 7 states had specific provisions for education. Jefferson believed that education should be under the control of the government, free from religious biases, and available to all people irrespective of their status in society. Others who vouched for public education around the same time were Benjamin Rush, Noah Webster, Robert Coram and George Washington. It was still very difficult to translate the concept to practice because of the political upheavals, vast immigration, and economic transformations. Thus, even for many more decades, there were many private schools, and charitable and religious institutions dominating the scene.

Jefferson - 1786 August 13. (to George Wythe)

"I think by far the most important bill in our whole code is that for the diffusion of knowledge among the people. No other sure foundation can be devised, for the preservation of freedom and happiness...Preach, my dear Sir, a crusade against ignorance; establish & improve the law for educating the common people. Let our countrymen know that the people alone can protect us against these evils [tyranny, oppression, etc.] and that the tax which will be paid for this purpose is not more than the thousandth part of what will be paid to kings, priests and nobles who will rise up among us if we leave the people in ignorance."[2]


redcliffsw


There's no mention of "government/public" education in the above post.


flintauqua

The word "tax" is in there.  Do you know of anyone else that has the power to tax other than government?

srkruzich

Quote from: flintauqua on October 28, 2009, 08:18:03 PM
The word "tax" is in there.  Do you know of anyone else that has the power to tax other than government?
If i remember right the collecting of tax was from import export taxes.  The govt got their operating funds from the states.  Not the other way around.  And thats the way it should be. You can control growth in that formula.
Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

redcliffsw


Good point SRKruzich.

The 16th & 17th amendments ought to be repealed.

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