Thumbs up for Arizona and Constitutional rights

[srkruzich]

PHOENIX -- About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday -- the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.

Gun-rights advocates say they're exercising their constitutional right to bear arms and protest, while those who argue for more gun control say it could be a disaster waiting to happen.

Phoenix police said the gun-toters at Monday's event, including the man carrying an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder, didn't need permits. No crimes were committed, and no one was arrested.

The man with the rifle declined to be identified but told The Arizona Republic that he was carrying the assault weapon because he could. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms," he said.

Phoenix police Detective J. Oliver, who monitored the man at the downtown protest, said police als

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/18/dozen-protesters-guns-outside-obama-speech/

[srkruzich]

I'm glad it didn't happen, but I wonder how fast that man would had been dead if he even looked like might have made a move to touch his weapon. I would have stood Fa-a-a-a-r away from him, just in case.

He would have been fine if he went to touch it.  He also wasn't stupid enough to shoulder his weapon at that location and made a move on the building. Now that would have solicited a fatal response.

But what it did prove is that we can manage our own lives.  Want to bet that if someone was to start shooting at the president he would have been one of the first ones to respond with lethal force against the attacker??

I have a cop friend back in atlanta that says that he would rather be in a firefight with armed citizens as his backup support than have cops from atlanta as his backup support.  The reason is that he does evals on cops and the "rules" for cops to qualify are so low that it allows 3 missed shots out of 10.   He calls that pitiful and unacceptable when your average citizen that owns guns won't miss but 1 shot out of ten, and the avid gun owner won't miss any.

[Varmit]

Diane, I don't know about Red, but, I don't believe you because you say that you are not for gun control then turn around and say that it should be a state issue, or you advocate a total registry for firearms. 

[pamsback]

  Thats because she lives in a place and is in a profession that sees the effects of gun violence every day.

[Teresa]

Then she and anyone else living in those places should know that the "gun" is not the problem..
Any law abiding true 2nd amendment believer knows that.

But I'm not going to repeat myself ... so I'll leave it at that..

[srkruzich]

  Thats because she lives in a place and is in a profession that sees the effects of gun violence every day.

Well thats one reason why you don't see that kind of violence in those cities that don't restrict gun ownership.    criminals aren't stupid, they would rather prey on those who do not have a means to protect themselves than risk getting shot.

[redcliffsw]

Diane, you're right, I do not believe you.  It appears to me that you are on
the leading edge of many liberal trends and that you'll support some kind of
method for the Fed's to take the guns of Americans or to keep Americans from
obtaining ammo.

[Diane Amberg]

If it makes you, several of you, feel better to call me a liar help yourself. You twist my questions and answers however you want anyway. I just got thoroughly swatted, so I'm done. Have it anyway you want.

[Warph]

Eight new gun bills signed by Arizona Governor Jan Brewer:

Waiting until the last possible moment, Arizona governor Jan Brewer on July 13 signed all eight gun-related bills enacted by the state legislature in 2009. Two crucial bills, Constitutional Carry and penalty reduction for discreet carry without a permit, failed passage at the last minute and didn't make it to her desk. The eight bills signed into law, which will become effective on Sep. 30, 2009 (except SB 1242, effective immediately), are:

HB 2569   Smuggling people for profit, involving a deadly weapon
SB 1113   CCW in liquor-licensed places OK without drinking, unless no-gun signs
SB 1088   Domestic violence protection extended to romantic or sexual partners
SB 1168   Parking lots cannot ban firearms locked in vehicles, with exceptions
SB 1242   Exemptions from CCW and more for more "proper authorities"
SB 1243   Defensive display of a firearm in self defense defined and protected
SB 1437   AZ High School Marksmanship Program instructor definition expanded
SB 1449   Retroactive self-defense clarification   

http://arizonaccwpermit.wordpress.com/2009/07/31/eight-new-gun-bills-signed-by-arizona-governor-jan-brewer/

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/phoenixmetro/central/story/Arizona-governor-approves-law-allowing-guns-in/5cCTyK4b1ky35CnwUhbfgQ.cspx

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/stories/phoenix-news-071409-parking-lots-bill.3d119beb.html

[srkruzich]

Good thing to see the AZ fixing the errors in their laws that circumvent the constitution.  Keep it up arizona. 

I've lived in many open carry states as well as permissive carry states and the crime is far less in them than any other state.   IF the law abiding people are allowed to carry, criminal activities decline rapidly.