Thumbs up for Arizona and Constitutional rights

[redcliffsw]

Flint-

I'm not accepting Baldwin, Benson, the Kennedy's or anybody else's articles as gospel and I doubt
that anybody else on this forum expects you to accept them or any others - but I can tell you that
I do believe the Bible as Gospel which is too far right for many in this land these days.

People know their people.  You say that you are in the majority of America.  So you are expecting
another victory in 2010 and 2012?

"Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

Rc

[pamsback]

"Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

Yeah...they can be adults and agree to disagree, get down to work, go around the stickin points and accomplish somthin.......but that would be too friggin EASY........

[Varmit]

Diane, I'm not trying to "slam" you or anything but go to youtube and do a search on "FEMA Camps".  Or checkout infowars.com.  Some may seem a little far fetched, but when you look at the Executive Orders, our own history, and the positions against personal liberty that the current adminstration takes, the idea of interment camps is certainly plausible. 

As for the 2nd amendment, you bring up a good point.  During the Katrina aftermath why were law-abiding citizens disarmed by law enforcement personnel?  The gov't knows that it cannot just come out with a bill that bans firearms, so they do it in small doses, little bits at a time.  The assault on guns can be viewed as a case study in Progressive tactics.

The pre-ww2 Jews were chosen as scapegoats because at the time germany was in financial straits.  A lot of the more "better off" were Jewish, as were the heads of quite a few banks.  So, like the current administration, Hitler targeted them as "evil, rich capitalist types" and blamed the country's problems on those that were in control of the money. 

Srkruzich, Hitler had started on Christians, something like 10 million of them.  But you are right, the numbers would have been higher if he hadn't been stopped.

[Varmit]

Red, I just looked at that article you posted by Chuck Baldwin, very interesting.  Kinda goes along with one of my original posts on this forum.  In it, I posed the question "Does anyone here feel like their is something more to what is going on?"  (something like that, can't remember the exact wording)  What I was getting at is that I feel that the framework is being laid for something far more sinister than what we have seen thus far.  To be honest I am somewhat hesitant about broaching the subject on the forum. 

[redcliffsw]

Billy, I thinking you're right on.

[Diane Amberg]

Billy, I really am trying to keep an open mind about all this, I do think some of what is written is very far fetched, BUT, the disarming of private citizens during Katrina seemed to be over the top. Of course I wasn't there personally, but had friends who did go down to help and they said the local police seemed scared to death part of the time. Some took off and left other police officers to fend for themselves. All kinds of operational mistakes were made that put some groups in jeopardy, but that is for another time. The local police caused the problem with the weapons. There was no big government take over as far as the guns were concerned. The pre plans broke down. Martial law had not been declared and I believe, after a time, the weapons situation returned to normal. To my knowledge, the temporary gun ownership crises didn't grow into a permanent gun control law any more that what they may have already had at the time. I suspect we could also do a search of our own history and find lots of conspiracy theories that amounted to nothing also. It is very true that big business over the years, and especially long back, did manipulate things successfully for personal gain, but that's another topic too.

[Jo McDonald]

Diane --- talk to the people at Greensburg, KS. and ask them how the gov't came in and took all of their guns and weapons, after the tornado. 
Maybe then you might change your mind , just a tad, about this.

[Diane Amberg]

Were they ever given back?  If not, then that's totally wrong. Was martial law declared? Who took them? FBI? (How should I change my mind? I agreed with Billy.) I just hoped that later, peoples' guns were returned.

[srkruzich]

Were they ever given back?  If not, then that's totally wrong. Was martial law declared? Who took them? FBI? (How should I change my mind? I agreed with Billy.) I just hoped that later, peoples' guns were returned.

Excuse me when did the Government EVER have the right to confiscate guns??  If they came here they wouldn't get mine thats for sure, unless their willing to take the bullets first!

[greatguns]

Or the other way around.