Oooooooeeeee..... The Lies Just Keep Coming

Started by Warph, July 30, 2009, 12:13:15 PM

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Warph


"There is no vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible; and he who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and a third time, till at length it becomes habitual; he tells lies without attending to it, and truths without the world's believing him. This falsehood of the tongue leads to that of the heart, and in time depraves all its good disposition." --Thomas Jefferson


Today Obama continued his lies in a meeting at a local grocery store by declaring that those without insurance will now be able to get affordable insurance.  The truth is that those without insurance will now be forced to buy insurance.  Obama has picked up quite a few enemies in the last few weeks and he's recycling the same crap that got him the presidency but finding that it is no longer getting him anywhere.  Newsweek has even come out and made fun of Obama for his administration's outrageous claims that the Economy is fixed.  Their reasoning for making the statement because less people are now searching for economic depression.  The health care issue could be what turns the tide in 2010 and 2012.

People were buying into hope.... but they realize now that the only thing unsustainable about this economy is Obama's policies against it.  They know that Obama's Plan for Insurance will ruin us and that anything he tells us about the plan is a promise as solid as his promises to not tax the middle class.  I dunno, BO... if you haven noticed, China wants its money back.  Of course Obama will tax the middle class!  Also, if the health care bills or cap and trade were to pass it wouldn't only be the end or America's success, it would also mean the end of Obama's career as no one in their right mind would vote him back into office.  But then again, as Rush Limbaugh pointed out today, Obama's voters were more QUANTITY than QUALITY.  This is the opposite of what Obama has planned for his health care.  Obama wouldn't pay Doctors based on the quantity of service they give but rather on the quality of care they give.  And what a wonderful idea!  But then, Obama probably doesn't even know what a spine is, let alone what "Quality" health care is.  Sorry, BO.... I just ain't buying it.

Speaking of Doctors.... David Scheiner, a Chicago, Illinois-based doctor and Obama's personal physician for 22 years said, "This isn't that kind of health care program that I think is going to work."  Rest of story:  http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/30/obama.doctor/index.html
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srkruzich

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well the doctor recognizes that it won't work.  Medicare does not work. Medicare is broke.  If it worked, then Medicare wouldn't be insolvent.

On a nother note, we ought to be demanding why congress and obama has given 1/2 trillion dollars to new zeland!
Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

Anmar

Quote from: srkruzich on July 31, 2009, 10:23:07 PM
well the doctor recognizes that it won't work.  Medicare does not work. Medicare is broke.  If it worked, then Medicare wouldn't be insolvent.

On a nother note, we ought to be demanding why congress and obama has given 1/2 trillion dollars to new zeland!

Congress didn't give the money out, the Fed did, independently of Congress.  I find it interesting that Obama gets blamed for everything
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

Anmar

"The chief source of problems is solutions"

srkruzich

Quote from: Anmar on July 31, 2009, 11:01:55 PM
Quote from: srkruzich on July 31, 2009, 10:23:07 PM
well the doctor recognizes that it won't work.  Medicare does not work. Medicare is broke.  If it worked, then Medicare wouldn't be insolvent.

On a nother note, we ought to be demanding why congress and obama has given 1/2 trillion dollars to new zeland!

Congress didn't give the money out, the Fed did, independently of Congress.  I find it interesting that Obama gets blamed for everything
Then there needs to be an accounting of it.  IF Congress isn't going to stop this theft of money then they need to get the hell out of there.  They control the purse strings of this country.
And it happened under obamas watch, its his mess.

Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

redcliffsw

It's a good reason to rid of the Federal Reserve system.  The
Federal Reserve is independent and has the authority to act without
approval.

Along the same lines, the 16th Amendment ought to be repealed.

srkruzich

Well the congress needs to act on this.  I know the feds call it a loan but when we are supposedly borrowing money and i use that term very loosely, because medicare and SS and the econonomy is failing then why isn't the fed stopping this illegal use of taxpayor funds. As the senator said, the spirit of that law that the feds are using to do this is being abused and violated.

Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

Varmit

A bit off topic, but since we're talking about the Fed. I thought that this was interesting.  A little long, but a good read...


Secretary Paulson runs the treasury. Secretary Paulson comes from Goldman Sachs. Secretary Paulson is saving all of these institutions, but Lehman Brothers, no, no, no, Lehman Brothers, that's got to fail. They gotta fail. Lehman Brothers, who was Lehman Brothers' biggest competitor? Oh, Goldman Sachs. Who is Goldman Sachs' biggest competitor? Oh, Lehman Brothers. Lehman Brothers, they can fail. The very next day AIG, they can't fail. AIG needs to be saved! So the former employee of Goldman Sachs, now secretary treasury Paulson decides to bail out AIG. Who is one of the first companies that get the money from the bailout from AIG? Who does AIG pay off, one of the first ones in line? Oh, my goodness, what a coincidence. Goldman Sachs. So AIG pays Goldman Sachs. Then the former Goldman Sachs employee, now treasury secretary Paulson says we've got to appoint somebody to really oversee and design this TARP thing; who could I get, who could I get, who could I you know what? I'm going to hire somebody from Goldman Sachs. He will design TARP. At the same time Goldman Sachs calls their former employee who is now designing TARP and their former employee who's now the treasury secretary and says, you know what, we should be a bank holding company. A bank holding company? What? Are you kidding me? In the coming months that will take GE almost two days to have that happen. What, are you crazy? Wal Mart's been trying for years! "Okay, we'll do it." So the two former employees from Goldman Sachs now allow Goldman Sachs to be a bank holding company. Well, why would they want to be a bank holding company? Well, now they can get even more funds from the government. They cannot only get the TARP funds but they can also get FDIC funds. Oh, and there's also this other little pesky thing. The SEC, the SEC doesn't oversee bank holding companies. The Federal Reserve oversees a bank holding company as long as it's the Federal Reserve where what town is Goldman Sachs? Oh, New York? Yeah. So you'll be overseen by the Federal Reserve chairman of New York who, oh, my gosh, what a coincidence! He's on your board of directors! Oh, well, that's great because he will know all of the stuff and he will be able to see if there's any kind of wrongdoings going on. The guy overseeing is on your board of directors, which is against the law. Boy, that's a bad thing that that's against the law. What are we going to do? Oh, oh, I just remembered. Not a problem! Because former Goldman Sachs employee is now the treasury secretary. So he just has to sign a waiver that says, "Don't worry about that! He doesn't have to get off the board. He doesn't have to sell any of his stocks. He will just have the former Goldman Sachs employee write a waiver to the Federal Reserve so the Federal Reserve chair can stay on the board and not only keep his stock but he can buy hang on just a second 52,000 shares of additional stock." Yeah. So now the guy who's overseeing Goldman Sachs, the watchdog, buys 52,000 shares more which up until today only made him three million dollars. I can't even imagine with a 65% profit increase how much money he's made. That's fantastic. Oh, by the way, the biggest thing that Goldman Sachs was doing was derivatives. Derivatives, derivatives, what are derivatives? Oh, my gosh, derivatives, why do I know that? It seems like a bad thing. Is that CBO, isn't that the D and the C he owes? Isn't that what caused all of this mess? Wait a minute, wait a minute. No, the derivatives didn't cause that. That was the oil. Wait a minute, hang on just a second. Goldman Sachs was the biggest derivatives and also weren't they the biggest in oil speculation as well? Wow, they were in two of those. Huh. Well, it's a good thing that we're out of derivatives and oil and energy. They've learned their lesson. They've learned their lesson because they are onto something brand new. They are onto cap and trade. They are the biggest supporters of cap and trade next to GE, which is also weird because that's part of the government now, too. But anyway, they've gotten out of the derivatives and they've gotten out of oil speculation because they learned their lesson. Now they are just going to start creating the biggest derivative market of invisible gas for energy. That doesn't sound like there's a problem there at all. Wait until you see this web, and this is what's happening to our government. There is a web that is being created and you are the fly. And they are just, they have stuck their fangs in you just to make you sleepy enough to put silk around you and then once you can't move, they will suck every bit of blood out of your body. More importantly because I meet enough people who say you could suck all the blood out of my body if it would leave my children alone. Your children will not have a chance if we continue to allow the spending, if we continue to allow people like Sotomayor getting in when she says I rule we all know you rule from the bench. You make laws on the bench. But then yesterday saying, "Oh, no, it's fidelity of the law." Which one is it? Why are we accepting things that we know are lies? They have lied to us over and over again and yet we do nothing! Is it because they have put that little sleepy juice into our necks? Slap your neighbor across the face and say wake up, man; you're caught in a web - Glenn Beck
It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

Anmar

I'm with you guys on this one, the federal reserve is the biggest enemy of the american people imo.
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

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