The Government Health Care Plantation

Started by redcliffsw, July 18, 2009, 06:52:20 AM

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redcliffsw


This proposed health care reform, through subsidies and expansion of Medicaid, will put tens of millions of new Americans on welfare. The result is predictable. Many more citizens with incentives to stay poor and dependent.


What is now being billed as health care reform is but the latest chapter in a process I described in a column I wrote called "Back on Uncle Sam's Plantation."

Rather than moving dysfunctional America off the welfare state, as we did with welfare reform in 1996, we are now moving the free, functioning and once prosperous part of our nation onto the welfare state.

Bills out of committees in both the House and the Senate contain all the elements of Barack Obama's dream to get as many Americans onto the government health care plantation as possible.

We've got creation of a new government-run insurance plan that supposedly will create new competition. We've got fines on employers who don't provide insurance and fines on individuals who don't buy it.

And we've got the trillions of dollars in new spending to subsidize insurance purchases for low to middle income Americans and expand Medicaid to get more low income Americans into it.

And, of course, we've got the massive new government bureaucracy to oversee it all.

Mr. Obama continues to tell the many millions of Americans currently insured through their employer not to worry, that "If you like your health care plan you can keep that."

Tell Congress to stop spending America into the ground! Sign the WND petition demanding lawmakers stop the bailouts, stimulus bills and march toward socialism and national destruction.

But we know this is a sleight of hand. Many employers will gladly pay the fine and purge their employees into the government plan. And how will private plans possibly compete with the government plan when politicians can reach into taxpayer pockets anytime they want to keep on subsidizing it?


rest of story:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=104275


Catwoman

Ben Stein, Economist, was on Glenn Beck last evening, discussing the fact that our country has moved from the rate of a steam train to that of a jet plane toward being Socialized...He had some interesting things to say, mostly about how he wished he could get the general public to wake up before we go COMPLETELY down the tubes. I have watched my parents to onto Medicare, which is essentially socialized medicine...And I have watched them not get nearly the same level of services that they would have received in their earlier years while on a standard insurance plan.  If O is wanting socialized medicine universally here in the US, then I'm all for it...As long as my plan is exactly the same as O's and the Congress' plans...And, let's make our retirements universal, too, while we're at it...I want the same retirement as O and the Congress, too!  Yeah, yeah, yeah...'If wishes were horses, beggers would ride'... ::)

redcliffsw


Well, I'm not into watching Beck or listening to Limbaugh or
any of the others.  They might have have some good stuff,
but I'm thinking our founding fathers set this thing in motion
and as individulas, we ought to try to keep it as right as we can. 

Most probably, things will not get better in this country, but
no matter what, those of us who believe in American principles,
ought to remain true thereto.

Catwoman

Quote from: redcliffsw on July 19, 2009, 11:34:10 AM

Those of us who believe in American principles, ought to remain true thereto.

If you had watched any of Glenn Beck, even as out there as he can sometimes be, you'd realize that he is very much remaining true to core American principles.  I don't hold with some of what he says, any more than I hold with a lot of what some others with a much lower standing have to say.   

dnalexander

I just read the CBO's full reports on the so called Health Care Reform. I support reform that lowers the cost of health care and make it so no one dies due to lack of health care whether they can pay for it or not. Like all other proposals this one if full of pork and all our lawmakers have proven that they are more interested in getting elected than actually solving problems.

Yes I am in a cynical mood. Right now I am seriously considering moving back to Alaska, getting my subsistence hunting permit, and homesteading a piece of wilderness. (Got to make sure I can still homestead in Alaska).  I think that by the time all the problems hit the remote Alaskan wilderness I will be able to die at 85 largely removed from all this stuff. First I have to go to the doctor and make sure that its not side effects from my medicine. I have always dreamed of a cabin in the woods where I could hunt and fish all day.

David

dnalexander

#5
Quote from: Diane Amberg on July 19, 2009, 04:37:49 PM
I thought you didn't want anything more to do with snow. ;D ;D ;D

Diane, that is what I recently said and it was true at the time. That is why I am going to have my doc check my meds. I have always had a fascination with living in the wild. My favorite books are by Jack London, and one called My Side Of the Mountain... I also, have some practical experience of actually doing it for periods of 30 to 90 days. If I could find the right place to do it in warm California, I would. I like challenges and maybe at my age this is one I could try. I could always come back.

David

dnalexander

#6
Quote from: Diane Amberg on July 19, 2009, 05:37:43 PM
Good luck with that. All I want right now is some good Copper River Sock Eye Salmon.Ya think Sarah Palin would get me some?

Diane the  Copper River Chinook (King Salmon) and Sockeye run May and June and are in my freezer now.  The best are the Silvers that will run in late August September. You can maybe find the Chinook and Sockeye at some of your finer Delaware restaurants for cheaper than I can send you some. As for the Silvers I don't share. If you plan the right vacation date to SF I will share.

David

Catwoman

Uh, just make sure you have a lifetime supply of waterproof matches, dude...And a reliable rifle, loaded for bear (literally) with a lifetime supply of ammo...And a lifetime supply of Stren fishing line, with swivels, etc., so that you can subsist in style!! Uh, don't forget a handbook detailing which plants are edible...Also, at least a year's supply of canned goods, since the bush pilots can't fly in adverse weather (which exists, off and on, for about 8 months of the year).  You're not the only one who has dreamed of living in AK! lol  Oh yeah...Mukluks...battery-powered sock/hand warmers with a 3 year supply of batteries...You might as well stay in CA! lol

dnalexander

#8
Quote from: Catwoman on July 19, 2009, 08:53:37 PM
Uh, just make sure you have a lifetime supply of waterproof matches, dude...And a reliable rifle, loaded for bear (literally) with a lifetime supply of ammo...And a lifetime supply of Stren fishing line, with swivels, etc., so that you can subsist in style!! Uh, don't forget a handbook detailing which plants are edible...Also, at least a year's supply of canned goods, since the bush pilots can't fly in adverse weather (which exists, off and on, for about 8 months of the year).  You're not the only one who has dreamed of living in AK! lol  Oh yeah...Mukluks...battery-powered sock/hand warmers with a 3 year supply of batteries...You might as well stay in CA! lol

Cat You make very good points. I certainly will have to refresh my memory. But I have actually put on a backpack with a couple days of food, put on my cross country skis, Sorel Pack boots ,my  Magnesium match and steel,  with a Rem. 7mm mag and a 22 cal pistol,  fishing pole, tent,sleeping bag and my trusty Kansas City German Shepard Kaiser, and lived off the land skiing the Alaska pipeline wilderness for a month or more. If I can find a place in California I will do it here. Unfortunaely my Brit Kansas is a California boy that shivers in 40 degree weather while duck hunting. He wears a wetsuit.



David

sixdogsmom

In Jr. high I became enamoured of Jack London, so much that I devoured nearly everything he wrote. That is until I read the short story 'To Build A Fire'. That cured me of being in love with the far north.  :P :P Way too much realism for me.
Edie

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