This Will Never Happen??????

Started by frawin, June 23, 2009, 03:27:19 PM

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frawin

"That Will Never Happen In America!"

Steve McCullough

June 17, 2009

1.    What if I had told you in October 2008, before the last
presidential election, that before Barack Obama's first 100 days in
office,  the federal government would be in control of both the
mortgage and the banking industries? That 19 of America's largest banks
would be forced to undergo "stress tests" by the federal government
which would determine that they were "insufficiently capitalized" so
they must be supervised by the government? Would you have said, "C'mon,
that will never happen in America"?


2.    What if I had told you that within Barack Obama's first 100 days
in office the federal government would be the largest shareholder in
the US Big Three automakers - Ford, GM, and Chrysler? That the
government would kick out the CEO's of these companies and appoint
hand-picked executives with zero experience in the auto industry and
that executive compensation would be determined not by a Board of
Directors but by the government? Would you have said, "C'mon, that will
never happen in America"?


3.    What if I had told you that Barack Obama would appoint 21
"Czars", without congressional approval, accountable only to him - not
to the voters - who would have control over a wide range of US policy
decisions? That there would be a Stimulus Accountability Czar, an Urban
Czar, a Compensation Czar, an Iran Czar, an Auto Industry Czar, a Cyber
Security Czar, an Energy Czar, a Bank Bailout Czar, and more than a
dozen other government bureaucrats with unchecked regulatory powers
over US domestic and foreign policy?  Would you have said, "C'mon, that
will never happen in America"?


4.    What if I had told you that the federal deficit would be $915
billion in the first six months of the Obama presidency - with a
projected annual deficit of $1.75 trillion - triple the $454.8 billion
in 2008, for which the previous administration was highly criticized by
Obama and his fellow Democrats? That congress would pass Obama's $3.53
trillion federal budget for fiscal 2010? That the projected deficit
over the next ten years would be greater than $10 trillion? Would you
have said, "C'mon, that will never happen in America"?


5.    What if I had told you that the Obama Justice Department would
order FBI agents to read Miranda rights to high-value detainees
captured on the battlefield and held at US military detention
facilities in Afghanistan? That Obama would order the closing of the
Guantanamo detention facility with no plan for the disposition of the
200-plus individuals held there?   That several of the suspected
terrorists at Guantanamo would be sent to live in freedom in Bermuda at
the expense of the US government? Would you have said, "C'mon, that
will never happen in America"?


6.    What if I had told you that the federal government would seek
powers to seize key companies whose failures could "jeopardize the
financial system"? That a new regulatory agency would be proposed by
Obama to control loans, credit cards, mortgage-backed securities, and
other financial products offered to the public? Would you have said,
"C'mon, that will never happen in America"?


7.    What if I had told you that Obama would travel to the Middle
East, bow before the Saudi king, and repeatedly apologize for America's
past actions? That he would travel to Latin America where he would
warmly greet Venezuela's strongman Hugo Chavez and sit passively in the
audience while Nicaraguan Marxist thug Daniel Ortega charged America
with terrorist aggression in Central America? Would you have said,
"C'mon, that will never happen in America"?


8.    Okay, now what if I were to tell you that Obama wants to
dismantle conservative talk radio through the imposition of a new
"Fairness Doctrine"? That he wants to curtail the First Amendment
rights of those who may disagree with his policies via internet blogs,
cable news networks, or advocacy ads? Would you say, "C'mon, that will
never happen in America"?


9.    What if I were to tell you that the Obama Justice Department
wants to limit your Second Amendment rights to keep and bear arms? That
the federal government wants to reinstate the so-called "assault
weapons" ban which would prohibit the sale of any type of firearm that
requires the shooter to pull the trigger every time a round is fired?
That Obama's Attorney General wants to eliminate the sale of virtually
all handguns, which most citizens choose for self-defense? Would you
say, "C'mon, that will never happen in America"?


10.    What if I were to tell you that the Obama plan is to eliminate
states' rights guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment and give the federal
government sweeping new powers over policies currently under the
province of local and state governments and voted on by the people?
That Obama plans to control the schools, energy production, the
environment, health care, and the wealth of every US citizen? Would you
say, "C'mon, that will never happen in America"?


11.    What if I were to tell you that the president, the courts, and
the federal government have ignored the US Constitution and have seized
powers which the founders of our country fought to restrict? That our
last presidential election may have been our last truly free election
for some time to come? That our next presidential election may look
similar to the one recently held in Iran? I know, I know what you say,
"That will never happen in America".




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Anmar

A lot of these actually were initiated by Bush....
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

kshillbillys

Give us your proof that "a lot of these were initiated by Bush" please.
ROBERT AND JENNIFER WALKER

YOU CALL US HILLBILLYS LIKE THAT'S A BAD THING! WE ARE SO FLATTERED!

THAT'S MS. HILLBILLY TO YOU!

srkruzich

Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

Varmit

In the interest of fairness I would like to point out that obama did not start the so-called stimulus, bank bailouts, housing crisis, or Constitutional violations.  I think that alot of folks were blinded to a degree when it comes to Bush because of 9/11 and his response.  Bush did begin warrantless wire tapping, individual bank account tracking, pretty much ignoring our right to privacy and violating the 4th admendment. 

My point is that the gov't as a whole is out of control.  We the People have to put a stop to it.  It has gotten to the point now that it is beyond laying blame at the feet of just obama.  True, he does seem to be the worst of the bunch, however, we need to start looking at the bigger picture.
It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

kshillbillys

I will agree that government is out of control and I would be happier if my life had a lot less government in it. I don't feel I was blinded by Bush. I liked his handling of 9/11. I like the detainees at Gitmo. I will agree that he had flaws. No one is perfect. No President has EVER been perfect. It's just that Obama rubs me the wrong way. He's spending WAY too much money and I'm not seeing many results. Paragraph 4 of Frank's post is the one that jumps out at me as being just a little too frivolous with money we don't have. At this rate it won't just be the kids and the grandkids paying it back, but the greats and great greats paying too.
ROBERT AND JENNIFER WALKER

YOU CALL US HILLBILLYS LIKE THAT'S A BAD THING! WE ARE SO FLATTERED!

THAT'S MS. HILLBILLY TO YOU!

Varmit

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you.  I supported Bush on the War on Terror, and think he did a pretty good job.  I just didn' t like his handling of the economy, but like you say, nobody is perfect. 
I guess "blinded" was a wrong choice of word.  I just get tired of hearing "Dem.s did this" or "Repub.s did that" when the truth is that neither party is worth a plug nickel. 
It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

kshillbillys

http://coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=59af3ebd-7bf9-4933-8279-8091b533464f

i was reading the above mentioned website about 100 Stimulus Projects: A Second Opinion by Tom Coburn. It was very interesting and very informative about how "well" our money is being spent across the country. If you have the time, please copy and paste the link then read through it!
ROBERT AND JENNIFER WALKER

YOU CALL US HILLBILLYS LIKE THAT'S A BAD THING! WE ARE SO FLATTERED!

THAT'S MS. HILLBILLY TO YOU!

Anmar

Quote from: kshillbillys on June 23, 2009, 05:28:57 PM
Give us your proof that "a lot of these were initiated by Bush" please.

Obama has been in office for what, 6 months?  You know a lot of these things, especially the bailout plans and civil liberty issues are much older than that.  When congress rejected the bailout of the auto industry, it was Bush who decided to funnel the Tarp money to them.  It was bush who decided to bail out the banks.  Can't you remember the major issues from 8 months ago?  Come on.
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

kshillbillys

Yes, I remember the auto and bank bailouts...I wasn't fond of them then either!
I don't remember Bush EVER getting people in his administration that would help take my guns away. I don't remember Bush trying to get rid of Conservative talk radio. I don't remember Bush appointing 21 Czars. I DO remember Bush's deficit being criticized by the Democrats but I don't think Bush ended up tripling that. I don't remember Bush ever traveling to the Middle East to kiss their asses and APOLOGIZE for things that should NEVER be apologized for.
I don't have Alzheimer's YET so yes I CAN remember 8 months ago.
A lot of these problems didn't just come around, you're right about that. But I'm sorry, don't just blame Bush. You need to go back a little further to begin the Blame Game.
ROBERT AND JENNIFER WALKER

YOU CALL US HILLBILLYS LIKE THAT'S A BAD THING! WE ARE SO FLATTERED!

THAT'S MS. HILLBILLY TO YOU!

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