What about Sonia Sotomayor?

Started by Wilma, May 28, 2009, 12:59:23 PM

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flintauqua

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Quote from: BillyakaVarmit on June 02, 2009, 07:29:51 PM
Pam I disagree, the woman stated ,
"And I wonder whether by ignoring our differences as women or men of color we do a disservice both to the law and society."  

What this says, to me anyway, is that she doesn't think that the law should be applied equally to all persons.  That the law should "bend" depending on a persons race or sex.

I believe she is saying if she, or other women, or men of color, ignore the fact that they (they judge) are not white males, and rule as if they (the judge) are white males, then that would be a disservice.  I don't read unequal application of the law based on sex or skin color of the litigants.

Diane Amberg

I read it too. Now that I see what the whole subject was, about courtroom women in general and Latina in particular, I see what she was talking about. She was showing, in her way, that what women bring to the courts is as good as and perhaps sometimes better than what a man does. She gave good examples of how women were treated when judges were always men. Laws do change, often. A woman who didn't have a prayer in a sexual discrimination case, now has a fighting chance.
  Personally, I like diversity. The more variety the judges bring to the court, the more depth the discussions will have that lead to the final decision. In court cases there will always be a winner and a loser. If laws were so simple, we wouldn't need more than one court.  Sometimes interpretation is needed....for one reason, people lie. If everyone spoke nothing but the truth, stuck to hard facts and there was no innuendo or a lawyer or judge wanting to make a name for themselves, it would be easy.  But humans aren't perfect, so we have judges. The Senate will choose.

Varmit

My question still remains, wht does sex or race have to do with applying the law?
It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

pamsback

Sex and race have to do with getting UNFAIR laws changed. Some laws ARE unfair, if you have an honest bone you'll admit it. lol

Varmit

It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

pamsback

 LOL you crack me UP! I gotta go anyway Deadliest Warrior just came on, The IRA against the Taliban. Pretty interestin show, they take warriors from different places and times and use a computer program to let them battle each other to see who would win. I just really ain't that interested in arguin unfair law with ya to tell the truth :P Really is a good show tho! Later.

flintauqua

Quote from: BillyakaVarmit on June 02, 2009, 07:47:50 PM
My question still remains, wht does sex or race have to do with applying the law?

Will someone get Billy a time machine so he can go back about 400 years! 

indygal

Gosh, it's nice to have you back in the mix, Flint.

Varmit

Pam, I wasn't trying to make a joke or anything, just wondered what laws you thought were unfair.  By the way, I love that show.

Quote from: flintauqua on June 02, 2009, 08:13:36 PM
Will someone get Billy a time machine so he can go back about 400 years! 

Flint, maybe its just me, but I would like to think that we have come a long way in 400 years.  Maybe you don't agree, but personally  I think the abolishment of slavery, doing away with segregation, application of equal civil rights, allowing women and minorities to vote and hold office, are good things.  By the way, alot of these things were made into law by white men.   Now, could you please answer my question, and since I don't have a time machine I will repeat it...again...What does sex or race have to do with applying the law?  That is, the law that we have today, not what we had 400 years ago.

It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

Teresa

I don't know what it DOES have to do with it.. but it SHOULDN'T have anything to do with it..
Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History !

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