Government Health Care Plantation

[redcliffsw]

....No thanks. I'll take freedom and personal responsibility.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=98888

[Diane Amberg]

Now that was a nicely written article. It's a little simplistic, but OK. If we had a one payer system it would be so big it could have some clout and perhaps negotiate better terms. If I had to buy Medicare Part B right now it would cost much less than private insurance would for me. I don't know much about Medicaid. Some insurance companies have left states because they didn't like the terms that some states wanted, and left people scrambling to find any coverage for themselves. We had several choices in coverage and were able to find a good fit. I don't know what comes next. There will be a lot more discussion on this subject. I'd rather they work on this than waste so much time and effort on the Gitmo thing.

[Varmit]

The answer is a simple one really.  It is not the gov'ts job to provide medical coverage to people.  Nor is it the responsibilty of taxpayers to pay for others that don't have it. 

[redcliffsw]

Very well said Billy. 

It's simply not the responsibility or any of business of the Fed's to be
involved whatsoever.

[Wilma]

And how are you two paying your medical expenses and how do you expect to pay them when you are 80 years old and requiring a whole lot more medical care?  How about major surgery one year, then 3 years later more major surgery, then 3 years later more major surgery, then bladder cancer, then melanoma?  Are you going to have the resources to take care of all that without some kind of insurance?

[srkruzich]

The answer is a simple one really.  It is not the gov'ts job to provide medical coverage to people.  Nor is it the responsibilty of taxpayers to pay for others that don't have it. 

On medicaid i agree.  On medicare i don't.  You have how many generations that have paid for medicare premiums?  Secondly medicare isn't free. I pay 130 a month plus copays of 20% to get medical care. So thats not the same.  IT is a insurance plan. 

Medicaid and schip is govt healthcare. 

[Varmit]

And how are you two paying your medical expenses and how do you expect to pay them when you are 80 years old and requiring a whole lot more medical care?  How about major surgery one year, then 3 years later more major surgery, then 3 years later more major surgery, then bladder cancer, then melanoma?  Are you going to have the resources to take care of all that without some kind of insurance?

With the insurance plus a little copay I take care of my medical expenses now.  I have a savings plan for when I get older.  Frankly,  I wouldn't go through all that.  I believe in quality of life over quanity.  I don't expect other people to pay for me, nor do I want them to.  When money is taken without permission, that is theft. 

[Diane Amberg]

So when you get old you're going to ship out on an ice flow? Your kids will be grown by then and might not want you to do that. Would it be OK with you if your insurer suddenly tripled your premium and copay just because they wanted more profit? I really do wish you and your family eternal good health, but I think you may be a bit naive.

[redcliffsw]

Diane-
Naive?  And do you believe that socialism is acceptable in this country?

By the way, how much more stuff do you think the Fed's ought to be paying to
and for the corporations and American citizens?  Is it OK by you for the Fed's to
take from one who has money and give it to another? 

 

 

[larryJ]

Billy, be sure you save a lot.  Maybe Medicare won't be available when you get to that age.  Save a lot as I had two operations last year, one for colon cancer and one for arterial bypass in my leg.  What with my wife's insurance covering me and my medicare I paid less than a thousand dollars for little incidentals such as copays, etc.  I get a little note from the insurance company every three months telling me what they paid for.  Those two operations plus the hospital stay and medications was just over $100,000.  That will pretty much wipe out a savings account.  So save a lot.  And don't forget that was just for me.  My wife also had her problems which would add to the list of things to pay for.

Larryj