Our wonderful Gov't in action.

Started by Teresa, May 11, 2009, 11:58:27 AM

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Diane Amberg

I don't understand what's wrong with that comment. He praised the the men and women in uniform. How can that be wrong?

Varmit

because the comment implies that he is questioning the valor and honor of our servicemembers
It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

Wilma

Once again, I fail to read into the president's comment the same thing you do.  Sorry.

Diane Amberg

Billy, I don't know what you are talking about. Please, reword the President's statements to say what you think it should have said, so I can understand. I don't see how he is questioning anybody's valor and honor. Or do you hate him so much that you put a mean sarcastic slant on everything he says. Have you lost your objectivity completely?

Varmit

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  A relentless focus on the outward markers of success can lead to complacency.  In recent years in many ways, we've become enamored with our own past success, lulled into complacency by the glitter of our own achievements.  We've become accustomed to the title of "military superpower," forgetting the qualities that got us there, not just the power of our weapons, but the discipline and valor and the code of conduct of our men and women in uniform.-obama

he is saying that our soldiers have forgotten their morals and values.  When you look at everything he has said about the military espcailly since the "torture" thing it is obivous that he believes our military is full of thugs and bullies.  he has basically handcuffed them when it comes to dealing with threats to our country.  Our troops could face punishment for even insulting a prisoner.  he refuses to release the memos containing the information that we gathered from our "torture" of terrorists. 

Diane, I don't slant anything he says.  I am just not blind to what he is doing.  Listen to the audio of his speech at ASU.
Or better yet, read the transcript.  Rush did a great job in breaking down obamas speech...

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It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

Diane Amberg

No,No,No!!! He is saying that "people" have forgotten the qualities that made this country a military super power, that it is the valor of the men and women, not just the weapons that make it so. It was a compliment, not a criticism!!!!! He did not say that our military have forgotten their code of conduct, etc. Good grief, Billy. If you got that from Rush, no wonder. He's an expert in making roses into skunk cabbage. Please think for yourself.

Diane Amberg

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Billy, the President was making a commencement address. You and I were not the audience, the graduating class was. Those speeches are always about positive forward motion, moving on, making a contribution,"up with people" etc. He would not have mixed the subject of torture or criticisms of our military into it.

Varmit

It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

Diane Amberg

No, I didn't have time just then, went by what you said. Speaking of which, you quoted me as saying "trust them to know what they are doing." I don't recall saying that. I might have, but I don't remember it. Are you sure it was me?

Varmit

I am pretty sure it was you, I will try and find the thread and post just to make sure.
It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

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