Arrogant Americans, Mr. President?

[sixdogsmom]

Diane I think most of these folks were supporting Ron Paul.

[Diane Amberg]

Ah,I see.

[redcliffsw]

You thought conservatives were Republicans?
You're probably from a Republican background yourself
and you do not seem to be a bit conservative.

[Varmit]

(remember you brought it up) 

Actually, you did when you implied that he wasn't "picked on daily"

It seems that every time someone wants to take a cheap shot at ANYBODY, they try to make a Hitler connection.

Whose taking a cheap shot, that is an honest comparison.

It's not my fault the German people were duped until they were so afraid they didn't do anything.

Diane, maybe they were just trusting Hitler to know what he was doing, and didn't want to tear him down on a daily basis?  Of course, if they had spoken out when he first came to power they may actually have had a chance.  Instead, they chose to just give him the respect due to his office.

Let me know if you think Pres. Obama is taking over the local police,

Nobama himself stated that we cannot rely on law enforcment alone, that we needed a private police just as well funded, trained, and just as well armed.  Bears a striking ressemblance to the Nazi party if you ask me.

I think his economic policy is risky, but I don't hear any workable ideas from the other side. The Repubs. seem to be disconnected and doing a lot of playground name calling, but I sure don't hear much positive counter point. And yes, I do watch Fox and listen to Hannity and sometimes Rush as well as CNN and others.

The Repubs. did offer counter points, in the form of tax cuts and downsizing the gov't, obama rejected them as "ideas that haven't worked in the past 8 years" while ignoring the FACT they worked during the Regan years.  The Rebubs. were willing to extend the hand of bipartisianship to obama and he turned them down flat.  Hannity, Rush, Beck, Gibson, Ingram have all offered positive steps the gov't could take, not only did the left turn them down, they mocked them as well as their listners with toilet humor and name calling, even went so far as to suggest they were terrorists.

[Warph]

Lord.... I'm glad I stayed out of this thread 

[redcliffsw]

Diane, you said that slavery is not a Christian ideal.

Socialism is much more widespread in this country than
slavery ever was. 

We are not considered a Christian nation
these days.  Dependency from the Fed's does not
seem to be a very good ideal -ya think?

[Diane Amberg]

Billy, I gotta call you on one. When I said "remember you brought it up" you attached that to my comments about his speech patterns. I said I don't like people being picked on for their speech. I didn't bring up his speech oddities originally, someone else suggested that  George was being "picked on", (not Billy,) because of his speech....wasn't me.

[Varmit]

Diane, I was refferencing an earlier post you made about Bush being picked on with such a venomus manner.  By the way your post was worded you implied that he wasn't picked on, at least thats how it seemd to me. 

[Diane Amberg]

You'll interpret what I say however you want to, I don't always make myself as clear as I'd like. Red ,I'm going to make a  long comment back on something you said earlier... my parents were Repubs. for many years.Try as he would Daddy couldn't understand George II. I had to get books about him for Daddy to read because it disturbed him so much. As for me, no I am not a conservative, nor am I a die hard Liberal. I'm in the middle. I judge things as they come and I do change my mind when I get new information or circumstances change. I don't toe an party line.
I believe in any non violent freedom of religion. I don't care for over generalization and admit that I do it too sometimes. I believe in line item veto, and recall and referendum. I'd like to see as much local government as will work. I don't think city values should be put on rural people, as long as they do the same and acknowledge that city folks have problems to solve that are unique to themselves. I believe in a Federal Gov. but I wish it would be more efficient. I believe that "kill "em all" isn't a good answer. I absolutely believe slavery here is/was wrong, even if it comes with an instruction sheet. ( Where is Moses when I need him!) I believe the Bible, as limited as it is (and I mean Old and New Testaments) is a great book, but not the only book. All humans have had their way of "enlightening" their people as far back as humanity goes. The American Indians have wonderful stories about how things came to be. As with the Bible, I believe some passages are symbolic and aren't meant to be taken literally. Many are life guides to keep people healthy and moral. The Bible has much missing and is made up of whatever the translator of the day wrote down. Even now the old Jewish scholars and linguists of ancient languages argue about the translations of the Dead Sea Scrolls. I don't expect anyone to agree with me, politically or religiously, but discussions can be great if they aren't mean. Sorry, David, I still don't have any answers!

[Varmit]

"Will we spend the next four years, every day, listening to Pres. Obama being picked apart? Would you have tolerated that if every single day someone picked at George Bush with such venom?  Republicans demanded respect for him simply because he was the President. He wasn't expected to prove himself every day."-Diane

How am I interrupting that wrong?  Does it not imply that Bush wasn't "picked on"?  If he wasn't then why would the Repub.s need to demand that he be respected because of his office?  And yes, he was expected to prove himself everyday.  People were screaming "wheres osama, why haven't we caught him yet. how long is this going to take, blah, blah, blah"