Whatever happened..................

[pam]

  I've been readin for awhile and not postin about much of anything. I read all the stuff about whatever happened to the american people and the horrible liberal takeover of the US and how Obama is goin to make all our lives miserable etc etc etc.

  I'm only 49 years old but I've been thinkin about it and have realized that in my whole life nothin the government has done has really affected me all that much....because I just go on and do what I need to do which is take care of my family period. I really don't give a good (*&&^*@ what people back east in the so-called real world decide to do. I don't feel the need to notify the government of every move I make or every thing I buy. They are on a need to know basis and I figure they don't need to know.

I want to know what happened to the American people too but not for the same reasons as most people....I want to know what happened to the americans sense of independance...when did the american people forget the government works for THEM not the other way around?

When did we forget THEY have to explain themselves to US not the other way around? When did we decide they deserve to live way above OUR standard of living just for sitting around shootin the shit basically? When did we forget we can say NO to all the spending and debt? It's OUR money they are pissin off. It's OUR country they are runnin into the ground.

When did we decide it's somebody elses job to protect our lives and property instead of our own responsibility? And right?

The fact of the matter is people only have as much power over your life as you LET them have. Including the United States government. We have to have the guts it takes to stand up and say NO or quit bitchin about what we get.

Things are fixin to get REAL rough in this country for awhile...not because of any one person be it clinton bush or obama. It's fixin to get rough because of a WHOLE BUNCH of people livin a life of excess and greed built on shiftin sand that is finally givin way with no way to stop it from goin. The fact that they are committin suicide because they can't face losin their money is the only indication of how lame the life of excess was that anybody should need.

There are gonna be a whole lot of people tho who just keep on keepin on just like they've always done and their ancestors did before them and they/we will be just fine. THOSE are the Americans I'M talkin about and they do still exist.

[redcliffsw]

Are you saying that the Feds are taking over over the country?  If so, then I'm in agreement with you on that one.

Can't imagine any improvement from Obama either.  Wasn't it Bush-I who first used the term New World Order and later Clinton used it too.  Sounds like all of 'em are using it now.

It's no wonder that they won't talk about our "founding fathers" anymore. 

[Warph]

There isn't anything that is more corrupt and screwed than Washington....   hell, the mafia is more organized.

What is needed to start with anyway, is Term Limits.  Senator Brownback, your US Senator, honored his pledge not to serve a third term in the U.S. Senate.  We need more of this.  Two terms (12 years) as Senator is enough.   Members of Congress should be limited to three terms in office... (6 years )!!

As it says:
  *Politicians care more about their careers than the people who elect them.
  *Arrogance, pandering and corruption are natural products on an entrenched political class.
  *Citizens deserve regular, competitive elections and more opportunities to run for office.
  *Members of the U.S. House of Representatives should serve no more than three terms.

Join the fight, Pam ....  Its a start!    http://www.termlimits.org/

 

[redcliffsw]

Warph-

Good points for sure.  I especially like your idea about term limits and the time periods for each of the offices.

I'm thinking that Davy Crockett was in Congress for two (2) terms and decided it was enough.  We could sure use someone like him today for a couple of terms. 

[W. Gray]

To some of us old timers, there are two Davy Crocketts—Davy, himself, and Fess Parker.

Davy Crockett ran for the Tennessee state legislature in 1821 at about age 35 and was reelected in 1823.

He lost his first run for US Congress from Tennessee in 1824.

He ran again for US Congress from Tennessee in 1826 and won reelection in 1828 but was defeated in 1830.

He ran again for US Congress from another Tennessee district in 1832 and won.

He was defeated in 1834 and told his constituents they could all go to hell and he set out for Texas in 1835.

[Diane Amberg]

According to the folks at the Alamo, "Davy" was always David until Walt Disney and Fess Parker. I didn't know that.

[W. Gray]

In the famous [at least in the early fifties] twenty verse song that Disney also came up with, the word David in place of Davy probably did not work well.

I have also read that he never wore a coonskin cap.

I have an ancestor, born in 1833, or so, named David Crockett Gray.

If you have been to the Alamo recently, do they now acknowledge that Davy survived the battle until being summarily executed?

[redcliffsw]

Thanks to W. Gray for the info on Crockett.  Wonder who defeated Crockett in 1830 so that Crockett served only 2 terms?
Probably, it was another good Tennessean who did this country right too.  If not, hopefully he was defeated in the next election. 

[W. Gray]

One of the Army weapons I trained on was the M-388 Davy Crockett. This was a nuclear bazooka type tactical weapon with a payload about the size of a large water melon.

The bomb sat mounted on the outside of a small barrel tripod launcher with its conventional propellant filling the entire barrel of the launcher.

The intended use of the weapon was a last ditch effort to stop overwhelming Soviet tank and armor forces from overrunning a defensive position during a surprise attack through the Fulda Gap in Germany. There were around two thousand of these weapons built and secretly deployed in Europe.

In the mid-60s, I saw it fired at Fort Benning, Georgia, with a "nuclear dummy." The bomb was carried in a special carrier by two men and had a canvas cover on which was printed something like "Atomic Bomb, Dummy, 1 Each."

When artillery is fired, the brass powder casing is ejected rearward in the vicinity of the barrel. In the Crockett weapon's case, the casing, in two pieces, follows the bomb and falls to the ground a few hundred feet from the launch tube.

The bomb set off a huge mushroom fireball from which we could feel the heat. No one ever found out but some of us suspected the bomb hit a gasoline cache causing the huge fireball.

Around 1970, or so, the weapon was retired.

[W. Gray]

William Fitzgerald of Paris, Tennessee, defeated David Crockett in 1830.

Crockett beat Fitzgerald in 1832 when both had homes in a newly created Congressional district.

Adam Huntsman of Jackson, Tennessee, beat Crockett in 1834. He served only that one term.