Cow, beef and pig tax

[srkruzich]

srkruzich - POLITICS! NAIS is the subjet there!  She (Tobina) is right!!! (-:

It's like 8 pages!  Have a good read!

As far as Cow, Beef & Pig Tax maybe this should move over to Politics also.  That way we could keep them seperate?

Then maybe my little country pea brain could keep up (-: with the subject at hand!

Let's keep everybody on their toes and thinking!!!

(-: Happy Days in God's Country :-)

I think that the problem is i don't trust government. I don't trust our congress, our president, USDA, or the cops.  I don't trust anything they do, or any program they implement.   Our forefathers didn't either.   It is a necessary evil in which its only purpose is to provide defense against enemies that attack us. To usurp the power from the constitution to become a nanny state is all that is happening with our government and I don't care if it is NAIS or if its EPA, its all suspect.  The less government has to do with our lives the better off we are.

[Wilma]

Yet, if you were having a heart attack, you would call 911, or if your cattle were rustled you would call the law, your barn on fire you would call the fire department.  How long do you think you would last with your shotgun, if invaders attacked you?  Be thankful for the government that protects us even though it isn't providing us with every little thing our hearts desire.

[greatguns]

Wilma, well said.

[srkruzich]

Yet, if you were having a heart attack, you would call 911,

I did one time, it took them 45 minutes to get to my house. I waited about 10 minutes and left, By that time i had driven myself to the hospital and was getting treatment.

or if your cattle were rustled you would call the law, your barn on fire you would call the fire department.  How long do you think you would last with your shotgun, if invaders attacked you?

LOL long enough.    Shotgun is mighty good weapon for dealing with invaders.  But first of all, i dont' count on the law.  Not much they can do when your cow is gone.  So i prevent the cow from being rustled.   Good dogs and a 30 -06 will take care of that.  But those agents, when you grant them permission to come onto your property for a specific event, doesn't give them a permanent license to enter your property. 

Be thankful for the government that protects us even though it isn't providing us with every little thing our hearts desire.

??  I despise government as did our forefathers.  IF Government were to quit injecting itself into everything we do, i might feel safer from government.  But like thomas jefferson and ben franklin, adams, and the great men who founded our country believed, we should keep our government fearful of us, not be afraid of it and to do that we have to reign in government and control it and force it to submit to us.

[Wilma]

So are you never going to accept a Social Security check?  Are you going to take down your mailbox?  Are you going to return any stimulus checks that might be sent to you?

[pam]

You're missin the forest for the trees,........

social security isn't from the government...it's from yourself by WAY of the government.
ditto with the stimulus check......
if you don't want to pay the US postal service use somebody else....send all your stuff UPS or FEDEX lol

like thomas jefferson and ben franklin, adams, and the great men who founded our country believed, we should keep our government fearful of us, not be afraid of it and to do that we have to reign in government and control it and force it to submit to us.

Exactly. They have a job because WE GAVE IT TO THEM!

There is a sayin that nails it.......Sure you can trust the US government.....just ask any NDN

[Tobina+1]

No, Steve, you are very mistaken.  NAIS and the export of beef to Japan is NOT the same program!  I can guarantee you that.  The company I work for is VERY involved in getting people trained and approved for age and source verification under a USDA PVP program, and none of the data goes into any NAIS database, nor do you even have to have an official Premises ID to participate in that program.

NAIS is run by USDA-APHIS (Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service)
PVP/QSA for Beef Export to Japan is run by USDA-AMS (Agriculture Marketing Services)

Premiums are only being paid for Age and Source verified animals under 21 months, not NAIS ones.

[Wilma]

You're missin the forest for the trees,........

social security isn't from the government...it's from yourself by WAY of the government.
ditto with the stimulus check......
if you don't want to pay the US postal service use somebody else....send all your stuff UPS or FEDEX lol

Social Security is a government program.  Sure we paid into it because we had to.  It is the law.  If we hadn't been forced (by the governent) to pay into it, I wouldn't have enough income to live on now.  We would never have saved it.  Ditto the government sponsored IRAs.  If they hadn't been a huge tax reduction incentive, we would never had invested in them.

The stimulus checks are not from anything we owed the government as in an income tax refund.  Sure they come from tax money.  Everything connected with the government is from tax money.  Heck, the government is us.  We just have people that are paid to run it for us.

So what we are ranting about is ourselves.  Right?

[pam]

Lol Wilma...I reckon you could look at it that way.

[redcliffsw]

Seems like I read that SS was created to keep money in circulation in the economy since the other pension system was expiring.  Who knows, folks might have been better off without SS.