Barack Hussein Obama -- Muslim apostate?... or just 'Little Black Sambo'

Started by Warph, May 20, 2008, 03:02:35 AM

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Barack Obama – Muslim apostate?
For Al Qaeda, the answer – and the implication – is clear.
By Shireen K. Burki
from the May 19, 2008 edition

Stafford, Va. - Osama bin Laden must be chuckling in his safe house. After all, the 2008 campaign could very well give Al Qaeda the ultimate propaganda tool: President Barack Hussein Obama, Muslim apostate.
The fact that Senator Obama – the son of a Muslim father – insists he was never a Muslim before becoming Christian is irrelevant to bin Laden. In bin Laden's eyes, Obama is a murtad fitri, the worst type of apostate, because he was blessed by Allah to be born into the true faith of Islam.

There are two types of apostates according to sharia (Islamic law) and the Hadith (sayings of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him).
The first type is murtad milli, one who converted to Islam and later renounced the faith. The second, and most egregious, type is murtad fitri. It refers to a person born of a Muslim father who renounces his birthright. Two recent examples of the latter are Magdi Allam (a male Egyptian who converted to Catholicism in Italy) and Ayaan Hirsi Ali (Somali-born woman who's now an atheist). Both now face death threats.
According to Islamic jurisprudence, children of a Muslim father – even an apparently nonpracticing one, such as Obama's father, and irrespective of the mother's faith – are automatically Muslims. Most Muslims around the world agree: A child of a Muslim father is a Muslim. Period.
Should Obama become US commander in chief, there is a strong likelihood that Al Qaeda's media arm, As-Sahab, will exploit his background to argue that an apostate is leading the global war on terror (read: attacks against fellow Muslims). This perception would be leveraged to galvanize sympathizers into action.

Remember: Al Qaeda's ultimate goal is to restore the caliphate (the Islamic form of government that would preside over the community of believers) and expand Dar al Islam ("Abode of Islam"). Reaching it requires a long war against all – Muslim and non-Muslim – who don't share its extremist Wahhabi worldview.
Al Qaeda, though, has struggled recently to recruit volunteers for this jihad. While bin Laden retains significant support as someone willing to stand up for Muslim concerns, most Muslims abhor Al Qaeda's terrorist methods whose primary targets are innocent noncombatants.

But an apostate as head of the United States could change this equation. It would be a propaganda boost for Al Qaeda's mission. All one has to do is read Al Qaeda's public statements to recognize how frequently it makes baseless apostasy accusations against fellow Muslims who challenge its message or actions.

That's why Obama is bin Laden's dream candidate.

Once branded as an apostate, President Obama would face enormous difficulties in the foreign policy realm, especially in the fight against terrorism.
He's caught between a rock and a hard place. If he softens the US strategy against Al Qaeda and its ideologues, his apostasy might be an afterthought for Al Qaeda. But if he acts firmly in America's national interest to defeat the terrorist threat, he'd be vilified in an Al Qaeda propaganda campaign for reneging on his "true identity."

Furthermore, his administration would struggle to positively engage the Muslim world, where Islam isn't just a religion, it's the way of life. Conservative Muslim populations that are riddled with poverty and low literacy rates can be more readily swayed to join the cause against the "Great Satan" (the US) if their imams and mullahs shout that it is led by an apostate.
Diplomacy is highly personal. The leaders of America's Middle Eastern allies – such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Qatar – already feel besieged by jihadists and disgruntled citizens who see their governments as toadies of the West. The murtad card could intensify that pressure, so leaders of these countries might be compelled to distance themselves from Washington.
In short, an Obama presidency – which might be fine domestically – could have serious repercussions for US foreign interests at a time when it is especially vulnerable in a tight global oil market.

So far, Al Qaeda has been conspicuously quiet on Obama's candidacy. But that should not come as a surprise. Hoping Obama gets elected, they're probably waiting until he's taken the oath of office to begin branding him a traitor to the faith of his fathers.
Islamic terrorists know that the long road to success lies in stoking the "clash of civilizations." To reach their goal of restoring the Caliphate in a form that fits their worldview, they need massive numbers of Muslims to join their global jihad.
Bin Laden and his followers have already shown their willingness to exploit real or imagined religious schisms to expand their support base. So it's not hard to imagine bin Laden praying that Obama wins this November.

Shireen K. Burki is an adjunct professor of political science at the University of Mary Washington, in Fredericksburg, Va. The daughter of a Muslim father and a Christian mother, she spent her childhood in Islamabad, Pakistan, where she studied Islam at school
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momof 2boys

What a racist remark!  "little black sambo"  I looked up the title of the article and that wasn't included in it, so must be your addition to it.  Someone just showed his racists beliefs.

Diane Amberg

Ouch! I remember when JFK was running, there were people who assumed that if he became president, the Pope would be running the country. I don't recall it was ever a problem.

W. Gray

If Obama gets the final nod, I doubt there would be a problem.

If Hillary somehow gets the nod, there would not be a problem.

Even if John McCain gets in, there would not be a problem.

There was a time when American troops said there was no way there could ever be a black military commander.

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Wilma

It looks like someone needs to persuade Obama that the Muslim that he thinks is his father is not his father.  That he was fathered by someone who is not Muslim.  But that would probably just add fuel to the fire.  If these other Muslims that have denied their faith are under a death threat, then why isn't Obama?  Hasn't he denied being Muslim and claims to be Christian?  If he is elected, will we have another assassinated president?

sixdogsmom

Yes, we could have another assasinated president. However I doubt that it would come from muslim force but rather from racism. I am appalled that this remark was used by someone who is obviously as intelligent as Warph. I am also ashamed that he is not intelligent enough to put race, religion or creed aside and consider the candidate on prospect alone.  :'( :'(
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Teresa

I'm not for or against advocating the title of this thread..as I focused on the article and not the title.

And I try not to allow color or genetics to come into anything that I do..unless it is pushed upon me and I have to address it.
IN fact, I would like to say and think that I could care less what color anyones skin is.. be it purple or black or shiny white.. I would hope that I could always see a person for what is inside and not on the outside of that part of a person.
But .......the truth being.. I am no better or worse than anyone in this area.
In my humble opinion, Between blacks and whites, I believe more black people whine and bring focus on their skin color and try to use it to their benefit, than white people noticing it.
(And if I could make a bet, I would bet a sizable amount that Warph "just used" that term... ( as we all have at times) ..and he is less racial than some of you even on this forum)

And regardless of whether you think you are or are not racial.. (myself included).. there is not one of us in here or anywhere I would imagine that is not or has not been racial at one time or another.  Just depends on what the situation is and what side of the fence your situation is standing on. Sounds good for all of us to stand on our little high and mighty box and say.. "you are racial but..not me~~ I'm not racial.. and color race creed doesn't bother me one bit. "
Ooooo-kayyy.........Whatever............ ::)

Since Obama is the center of this thread..
let me ask ............

Why is it that Obama and his wife, the religious zealot Jeremiah Wright ,Obama's pastor, or anyone, for that matter,  who is black, can talk about white people in any way shape or form and it is okay. We have to listen to it..coddle it and ..accept it?
I mean.. Anything goes. Call us as the White Caucasian group publically anything you want to.. Use the, "my great great great great uncle was a slave, so I can degrade you in anyway I want to" excuse.. ...
NOTHING is said to them for anything that is racially said..Whether it be on the air or in person.
In fact we as the other color fear of being called ""gasp.."" prejudice  ...if we say anything about it.. or dare use any kind of "term" towards anyone.

I'm sorry that the black race of people were used as they were. I'm sorry that the Indians were humiliated and treated like dirt. I'm sorry for the death and torture of the Jews...I'm sorry for lots of the inhuman treatment of good people.. Whether it be Blacks, Jews, Whites, Native Americans....but GET OVER IT!! 
It is the here and now in the 21st century  and everyone has the same opportunities as anyone else if you work hard and stay on the right side of the law. So don;'t give me this" I'm black and unless you do this for me, I'll scream discrimination until I get it"

Unfortunately we will always have color and creed racists...  it will never not be there.. From ALL forms of all species of people.
I see the white people bowing down more and more and more to the blacks and the Hispanics and the Muslims... and it is only pouring fuel to the fire. No matter how much we "surrender" our souls to other races, we will still be hated.

All the stuff that is in Baracks books which has more than several  black people's aspects against white people...makes him no more or less human than anyone where this word "racist" is concerned. 
If any WHITE candidate who had such stuff out in print against blacks, they might as well not even consider running for president of the U.S. 
But .once again.. double triple quad triple standerds are always going to be there...

Don't mean to start another war on here.. but that is just what I think.
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archeobabe

The article on Obama written by Shireen K. Burki is from the ABC News, who sometimes blow everything out of proportion.  Sometimes anything that is written should be taken with a grain of salt.  People who write articles like this have blinders on and are looking down their noses.  We, as Americans, need to look at all sides of the picture and make the best of it.  Let the voters decide in November.

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