NAIS

[pam]

Just out of curiosity what do y"all think of the NAIS (National animal id system) up there?

[flo]

Good post, Pam Karmablvr - and there is a forum member that is pretty well in the know about this and She will probably have some good debate on the subject.  Personally I don't know enough about it.

[Teresa]

I have quite a bit of information on it..as I have been following it off and on.. ( anything with politics and the governments corruptness I have instant information from underground alerts.) . and this is a biggy..
Too bad most people are not taking it as serious as they should.

Without getting to tied up in time here ( as Kjell has given me a load to do today *while Mason is napping* ) I can say that the idea behind it is simply to run the small rancher out of business so that big corporation will be all thats left and have total control of the the livestock market.
And Yea.. I have lots of fact to back it up. 

[pam]

That's the opinion of most people that know anything about it! We're fightin it down here. NOT a good idea at all. I started hearin about it bout 4 or 5 years ago talkin to modern homesteaders and it set my antennas to tinglin kinda like when they wanted everybody to put a chip in their kids "just in case they get lost". We gotta stop stuff like this. Like Barney Fife says NIP it NIP it in the bud!lol

[Lookatmeknow!!]

I agree totally.  I really need to be following it better, haven't seen much news on it lately in the magazines that we get.  I will tell you my opinion and I don't like it.  We have cattle and not awhole lot.  We are the small farms that Teresa was talking about.  One thing, last thing that I knew, I don't think that we could afford the stuff the Id them.  Things might have change, but I don't know about you, but don't they really already track them from the feed lot to the sale and sale to market?  I would think that you should have a paper trail whos cattle went where from the sale barn.  I know that the auctioneers know whos cattle is whos without Electronic Ids.  They know where they sold them to and from there I would think that they could be tracked.  Am I thinking wrong?  I might not know alot about the sale barn part and stuff, but just from what, little I do know I would think that you could track them.  I know that for 4-H in Elk County, we do Electronic tagging now and started it last year.  I just worry about farmers that aren't really big, like us.  We take a hit and keep on going every year.  But I will be honest, it's the gas price that worries me more at the moment.  Do you know how much we spend a year on fuel in just feeding cattle?  And Jeff custom hays, but not sure if we can truly afford to do that at all.  Which then again, it is part of our income.  Ok, I am off on another subject I'd better go.

[pam]

there are a few people I've heard that talk about it bein a safety net for the feedlots. Most of the sickness happens when the cows are crowded up in the feedlot but if they are tagged the feedlot can escape responsibility if somethin happens by layin it on the farm the cows originally came from which sounds likely but I don't know if it's gospel or not yet. But it's totally bogus, even if you just have a few chickens and a hog or cow to butcher for yourself, once it becomes mandatory you'll have to register your place and the stock and notify the government everytime you butcher a chicken or somthin gets one or be slapped with a huge fine. They've started the "voluntary" part in missouri but people are tryin to stop it before it becomes mandatory. Needless to say I ain't registered nothin and I'm not goin to

[Teresa]

Needless to say I ain't registered nothin and I'm not goin to

Well you little heathin' rebel you!   

[pam]

 

[Lookatmeknow!!]

Well, I did not know that.  I am registared because of our 4-H projects, at least I think we are.  Do you know anything about this?  We just took a cow to get butchered and did not tell anyone, but of course the locker.  But you know none of the other animals but the 4-H ones ever had tags like that.  And we sold him last year at the farm, but we are getting other livestock for 4-H and they will be registared that way.  Does that mean we are to be registaring our other herds?  I don't know that much about them, but don't think it is the same.  They were doing this for a test to get the free wand.  But I don't want to do this. We don't sell anything unless its healthy anyways.  The government, they get you coming and going.  We need Tobina to chime in here, I need her help about this one.

[pam]

Far as I know right now you just have to keep records of when where and what you did with it since it's still "voluntary". It will be when and if they make it mandatory that the other stuff kicks in