Barack/Hillary

Started by W. Gray, February 20, 2008, 09:37:19 PM

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W. Gray

Hillary looked like a bobble head doll nodding in agreement with most things Obama said.

The "Hillary Cackle" has apparently gone away.

She said a lot of words but did not say much when asked why her opponent would not make a good commander in chief.

He responded in much the same way. There was only a little bit of "fireworks" and at point they were admiring each other so much I thought he was going to kiss her on the cheek.
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Judy Harder

UGH and UGH and UGH and UGH  and UGH :-X :-X :-X :-\ :-\ :-\ ??? ??? ??? :o :o :o
Today, I want to make a difference.
Here I am Lord, use me!

Teresa

#12
This is going to be long..  ::)  Like.. ahhh... what else is new with me.
When it comes to political or spiritual writings.. I tend to be on the windbag side..  I put things down on paper because it is almost therapy for me.. It keeps the people around me safer  ;D  and keeps me from going crazy and chewing the wood off the door frames.  ;D
Sorry... but I'm going to do it again.  ;) And most of this comes from what I have heard others say, but what I agree with.


Kathleen Parker scrutinizes the hysterical emotionalism of the Obama campaign

"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason." —Benjamin Franklin

PATRIOT PERSPECTIVE
The Ecstasy of Barack
Much has been made of the religious tenor of Barack Obama's presidential campaign.

Reports of women weeping and swooning—even of an audience applauding when The One cleared his proboscis (blew his nose for you mortals)—have become frequent events in the heavenly realm of Obi-Wan Obama.

His rhetoric, meanwhile, drips with hints of resurrection, redemption and second comings. "We are the ones we've been waiting for," he said on Super Tuesday night. And his people were glad.

Actually, they were hysterical, the word that best describes what surrounds this young savior and that may be more apt than we imagine. The word is derived from the Greek hystera, or womb. The ancient Greeks considered hysteria a psychoneurosis peculiar to women caused by disturbances of the uterus.

Well, you don't see any men fainting in Obi's presence.

Barack Obama has many appealing qualities, not least his own reluctance to be swaddled in purple. Nothing quite says, "I'm only human" like whipping out a hankie and blowing one's nose in front of 17,000 admirers. The audience's applause was reportedly awkward, as if the crowd was both approving of anything their savior did, but a little disappointed at this rather ungodly behavior.

So what is the source of this infatuation with Obama? How to explain the hysteria? The religious fervor? The devotion? The weeping and fainting and utter euphoria surrounding a candidate who had the audacity to run for leader of the free world on a platform of mere hope?

If anthropologists made predictions the way meteorologists do, they might have anticipated Obama's astronomical rise to supernova status in 2008 of the Common Era. Consider the cultural coordinates, and Obama's intersection with history becomes almost inevitable.

To play weatherman for a moment, he is a perfect storm of the culture of narcissism, the cult of celebrity, and a secular society in which fathers (both the holy and the secular) have been increasingly marginalized from the lives of a generation of young Americans.

All of these trends have been gaining momentum the past few decades. Social critic Christopher Lasch named the culture of narcissism a generation ago and cited addiction to celebrity as one of the disease's symptoms—all tied to the decline of the family.

That culture has merely become more exaggerated as spiritual alienation and fatherlessness have collided with technology (YouTube, Facebook, MySpace, etc.) that enables the self-absorption of the narcissistic personality.

Grown-ups with decades under their double chins may have a variety of reasons for supporting Obama, but the youth who pack convention halls and stadiums as if for a rock concert constitute a tipping point of another order.

One of Obama's TV ads, set to rock 'n' roll, has a Woodstock feel to it. Text alternating with crowd scenes reads: "We Can Change The World" and "We Can Save The Planet."

Those are some kind of campaign promises. The kind no mortal could possibly keep, but never mind. Obi-Wan Obama is about hope—and hope, he'll tell you, knows no limits.

It is thus no surprise that the young are enamored of Obama. He's a rock star. A telegenic, ultra-bright redeemer fluent in the planetary language of a cosmic generation. The force is with him.

But underpinning that popularity is something that transcends mere policy or politics. It is hunger, and that hunger is clearly spiritual. Human beings seem to have a yearning for the transcendent—hence thousands of years of religion—but we have lately shied away from traditional approaches and old gods.

Thus, in post-Judeo-Christian America, the sports club is the new church. Global warming is the new religion. Vegetarianism is the new sacrament. Hooking up, the new prayer. Talk therapy, the new witnessing. Tattooing and piercing, the new sacred symbols and rituals.

And apparently, Barack Obama is the new messiah.

Here's how a 20-year-old woman in Seattle described that Obama feeling: "When he was talking about hope, it actually almost made me cry. Like it really made sense, like, for the first, like, whoa..."

This New Age glossolalia may be more sonorous than the guttural emanations from the revival tent, but the emotion is the same. It's all religion by any other name.

Whatever the Church of Obama promises, we should not mistake this movement for a renaissance of reason. It is more like, well, like whoa.


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Obama. It's almost like his followers are on ecstasy!  Now he's copying lines from his political buddies and making no excuses to boot. It works out perfect as his followers are the "Copy and Paste" generation.  Heaven help those who drink his Political Kool-Aid and help the rest of us if he ends up in the White House.
And I recall reading some where to beware of a false profit for those that follow will be deceived. Ever since he came on the scene this keeps popping in my head.
And yes, I am referring to the anti-Christ, who is supposed to be charming, charismatic, beloved by many, promising to bring peace to the world - before he inflicts his will and brings 7 years of utter chaos and unimaginable strife upon the entire globe. At which point, all hell breaks loose.

Hillery is in my opinion,  just a side show, a diversion.

But I'm really thinking that Obama seems to fit this bill pretty well. Like I said, I've been worried about that for some months now. Of course, he could just be another socialist fascist in sheep's clothing waiting to subdue and enslave us all, and turn the US into just another set of consumers and producers, in the great one-world economy, controlled by the one world government.

I hope I'm  wrong . . . .. but ever since he came on the scene.. there was just something not quite right with him. Something that lurks under the surface. Something that just reeks of sheep in wolfs clothing..  He is definitely a smooth talker and he talks and talks but really doesn't say anything. But it doesn't seem to matter to people. It is like they are not listening or thinking at the same time.  At least with Hillary you KNOW she is a bitch. You KNOW she is as corrupt as they come and what her plans are for America.. But Obama.................................. just where IS his allegiance??!??  ??? Does anyone really know? I don't think so...


I'll finish up this political soapbox on something the Kjell said:

When Obama or Hillary talks about solutions, it sounds like they have invented the wheel and everything will be fine when they start rolling forward from the White House. The saddest part is not the power hungry Obama or Hillary.... it is all those who want to buy this package without looking at what's under the fine wrapping paper.


I hate politics..
poly meaning "many", tics meaning "blood sucking parasites.

The end.. 
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Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History !

Judy Harder

Boy you know how to roll those words around an issue.......

Good for you and I agree with you..........and really love the "BITCH" sentence.

I sure wish you would get out there and run for president.
I can just see us in Elk County running for the hills.....oh the black mail  ............You would  have the backing.

Thanks Teresa, Keep up the good work!
Today, I want to make a difference.
Here I am Lord, use me!

sixdogsmom

Fee Fie Foe Fum! I smell the blood of a republican! 100 years more war in Iraq! Hoorraaayyy!!! Our sons and daughters' blood spilled every day--- for what? We NEED CHANGE!!! The nation is failing economically! Wake up! We have unbridled inflation and the current oil barons that are in power have not been good for the people. We have goods being imported that have no quality. Sadly, many do not even know what quality is much less the absolute danger of all these profiteers! Think this through!
Edie

Diane Amberg

That's ok folks, now you can vote for Ralph Nader...again...don't you all feel better? :-X

Teresa

Well... Just because I am a republican doesn't make me for the war. ( Because you are a Democrat, doesn't make you for gun control either)
But I get sick and tired of hearing how it is the Republicans fault for "starting" this war...and it is the Republicans who want to keep it going. It has taken more than George Bush to start this war.
Am I for it? Hell No!  Do I think that we should get out? Yes.. but ... I think it has to be very gradual and very very careful. The United States is the most hated country in the world...and if you think that we can just pull out without consequences to the US, you need to think again.
So before you start to Fee Fie Foe Fum me.............................. Let me refresh your hazy memory.....

Here is a little bit from the Clinton speech while he was office..



CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.

I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.
The international community had good reason to set this requirement. Other countries possess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there is one big difference: He has used them. Not once, but repeatedly. Unleashing chemical weapons against Iranian troops during a decade-long war. Not only against soldiers, but against civilians, firing Scud missiles at the citizens of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Iran. And not only against a foreign enemy, but even against his own people, gassing Kurdish civilians in Northern Iraq.

The international community had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again.

With Saddam's latest act of defiance in late October, we built intensive diplomatic pressure on Iraq backed by overwhelming military force in the region. The UN Security Council voted 15 to zero to condemn Saddam's actions and to demand that he immediately come into compliance.
When Saddam still failed to comply, we prepared to act militarily. It was only then at the last possible moment that Iraq backed down.
made it very clear at that time what unconditional cooperation meant, and I made it equally clear that if Saddam failed to cooperate fully, we would be prepared to act without delay, diplomacy or warning.
The conclusions are stark, sobering and profoundly disturbing. In four out of the five categories set forth, Iraq has failed to cooperate. So Iraq has abused its final chance.

In short, the inspectors are saying that even if they could stay in Iraq, their work would be a sham.  Saddam's deception has defeated their effectiveness. Instead of the inspectors disarming Saddam, Saddam has disarmed the inspectors.

This situation presents a clear and present danger to the stability of the Persian Gulf and the safety of people everywhere. The international community gave Saddam one last chance to resume cooperation with the weapons inspectors. Saddam has failed to seize the chance.

And so we had to act and act now.

We will not only have allowed Saddam to shatter the inspection system that controls his weapons of mass destruction program; we also will have fatally undercut the fear of force that stops Saddam from acting to gain domination in the region.

That is why, on the unanimous recommendation of my national security team -- including the vice president, the secretary of defense, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the secretary of state and the national security adviser -- I have ordered a strong, sustained series of air strikes against Iraq.  At the same time, we are delivering a powerful message to Saddam. If you act recklessly, you will pay a heavy price.

We will pursue a long-term strategy to contain Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction and work toward the day when Iraq has a government worthy of its people.

First, we must be prepared to use force again if Saddam takes threatening actions, such as trying to reconstitute his weapons of mass destruction or their delivery systems, threatening his neighbors, challenging allied aircraft over Iraq or moving against his own Kurdish citizens.

To end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government -- a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people. Bringing change in Baghdad will take time and effort. We will strengthen our engagement with the full range of Iraqi opposition forces and work with them effectively and prudently.

The decision to use force is never cost-free. Whenever American forces are placed in harm's way, we risk the loss of life. And while our strikes are focused on Iraq's military capabilities, there will be unintended Iraqi casualties.  Heavy as they are, the costs of action must be weighed against the price of inaction.

And mark my words, he will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them, and he will use them. Because we're acting today, it is less likely that we will face these dangers in the future.

But once more, the United States has proven that although we are never eager to use force, when we must act in America's vital interests, we will do so.

Tonight, the United States is doing just that. May God bless and protect the brave men and women who are carrying out this vital mission and their families. And may God bless America.


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Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Mississippi) and House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-Texas).
"I cannot support this military action in the Persian Gulf at this time," Lott said in a statement. "Both the timing and the policy are subject to question."

"The suspicion some people have about the president's motives in this attack is itself a powerful argument for impeachment," Armey said in a statement. "After months of lies, the president has given millions of people around the world reason to doubt that he has sent Americans into battle for the right reasons."

"Whatever happens, it will take years to repair the damage President Clinton has done to his office and his country," Armey said.

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Once again.. I have said time and time again.. I am NOT a die hard Republican in all issues.
I believe that Clinton started the chain of events of this war..( Hell .. even Hillary Clinton supported the war for awhile)  and Bush had 9-11 to deal with...and did what everyone wanted him to do!
Take charge and go after the bastards!
I don't care what president we would have had in office ( other than Obama) I think that they would have reacted the same way.
There really wasn't any choice.
Hopefully we can get out of this war, without causing another one.
I don't worry about another world war.. I worry about another Civil War.. THAT....  my friends... is coming........

And  if you want to talk about 9-11.... THAT is another subject altogether..and one that doesn't have "Innocent Pollyanna" stamped on it...like so many people would like to believe.. 
Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History !

archeobabe

Who do you think should be running for president, someone like Teddy Roosevelt who brought the robber barons to their knees or H. Hoover who promise a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage?  I know that I would vote for Teddy if he was alive today.

Judy Harder

I just want to say that I hate war and fighting of any kind.
But, we do have very nasty type people on this earth.

I know that since Bible times we have had to deal with Satan and
his powerful and deadly types.

But, I also am sure that we will survive this, IF IF IF we stop the mud slinging and
PLEASE try to play nice together..and I do say that tongue in cheek.....I don't want to
see the war here in the UNITED STATES.....and I don't think any of us do.

IF (and yes we must keep on keeping on) the troups are brought home before a it is time, then
there is nothing to stop the Terrorists from taking over the world.

It doesn't matter if we are Republican or Democrat or Independent or what ever you believe in.

Goodness will prevail..........I just hope that when the fur settles we American's can say that we did a good job
and when history looks back and we all know that will happen........LOOK AT THE HISTORY BOOKS.  that we come out of
this smelling better than we do right now.

I know that we don't have a good image around the world...........I do feel that we (America) has stuck its nose into too many places of the globe with an I KNOW BETTER ATTITUDE.

I do not have any idea of what can be done. I know that at least we are talking about it and maybe out of this a solution will come.

Please keep discussing and maybe some one can figure this out. No ONE person can do this........President or Senator or Preacher, etc......but the entire body of rightful people can.

Just give us time. It wasn't broken in a day and it sure won't be fixed in a day. ONE DAY AT A TIME.

And Lord please let us all pray for each other and the enemy's of this great nation.

We will survive.

Angels on your pillow.
Today, I want to make a difference.
Here I am Lord, use me!

greatguns

anti-Christ description, uhm------sounds like it might describe the one we have now.

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