Progress - Progressive

redcliffsw · July 26, 2016, 05:47:52 AM

Wake-up! · July 26, 2016, 10:50:30 AM

How do you propose changing the dialog to loosen the shackles? Ron Paul believes education will do the job. Will it? Is a more action-oriented approach feasible? Will civil disobedience become necessary? What is acceptable as progress to you?

redcliffsw · July 27, 2016, 06:14:26 AM

The progressive movement - Republicans and modern Democrats - has empowered government. That's socialist progress to have an overseer for the people.

Ron Paul supports the Founders. Can't go wrong there. Lincoln was not connected to the Founders, he severed that tie - Jeff Davis was connected to the Founders. Go figure.

Just watch Hillary - she's a good example of the complete Republican doctrine that Americans have lived for more than 150 years. Hillary is no Jeffersonian Democrat, in other words, she's no real Democrat - she's Republican.

Diane Amberg · July 27, 2016, 10:46:37 AM

and Trump is a true Fascist. Just look at history.

Wake-up! · July 27, 2016, 01:10:02 PM

Redcliffsw, I generally agree with your historical perspective. But I fail to see how reflecting on history or ranting on about Billary offers a path to stop the creep of collectivism in our central government (not to mention many State governments as well). There is not a single politician that I know about that offers anything close to a path to freedom, so I see the political process as completely irrelevant. Does that mean there is no path that leads the correct way? So I come around again to possible approaches and solutions, rather than criticism, no matter how warranted the criticism is. What are the steps we need to take?

Diane, is he really a fascist? Or some modern-day, neo-fascist as the press might label him? Fascist regimes are traditionally one-party dictatorships that promote nationalism and protectionism. The only one that fits Trump, in my opinion, is nationalism. And he will probably be the next president by touting two things, 1) Hillary is a liar (which she is), and 2) Americanism before Globalism. He isn't perfect by any means. I probably wouldn't like him as a next door neighbor, although I say so reservedly because I/we have never seen the private man, just the public one. My motto would be Individualism before Globalism, so I see Trump as a small movement in the correct direction. Slightly so. His willingness to deregulate to promote local economies is not a fascist trait. What I like best about him? He is a business man (yes, one who has taken every advantage he can. Not sure that is bad.), not a stuffed-shirt, coat and tie, bought and paid for political hack.

But, I will vote my conscience.

A blog comment, having only been here two days!! How do I reply to individual comments, rather than reply to the 'topic'? If I can't, why not?

redcliffsw · July 28, 2016, 06:17:04 AM

It was the Founders that put this country in motion and we're supposed to keep it as right as we can. If we don't know our history, what else do we have to go by? Certainly not the good feelings and sharing (mandating) of socialism that the Republicans introduced to us in 1865.

Just like in Christianity, the Bible is what we go by. Not something that a hiearchy, headquarters or somebody made up to begin another false tradition like many that have been started down thru the years.

Good to see your postings.

Wake-up! · July 28, 2016, 08:48:41 AM

I certainly agree that a return to a Constitutional foundation would improve freedom and opportunity for everybody, relative to today's status quo. However, does that go far enough? Jefferson once stated that he thought the new country might only last twenty years. And he thought that just might be all right; that every generation should probably form its own government.

It's also interesting to recall that the Founders were not in agreement. When the Constitution was adopted, many did not want it, they preferred the existing Articles of Confederation, and relented only when promised to have an addendum, the Bill of Rights. Well, we know how that has worked out over time. Would we not have more freedom with less central authority? The southern States certainly thought so when they attempted to throw off the shackles of the central government.

And I agree. My first suggestion, within the political framework that I have zero faith in, is to organize a new Constitutional Convention where States and groups of individuals would have the voice to withdraw from the so-called USA. But, boy, can you see the claws, fangs, and cat fights that would evolve in that process. It would be a true political three-ring circus, way beyond what television has shown us the last two weeks. But freedom might just fall through the cracks in that fracas.

Diane Amberg · July 28, 2016, 02:26:00 PM

I'm afraid Trump really may have hurt himself with his big mouth comments on wanting Russia to find and share e-mails. Many feel it smacks of treason and is not something to be considered a "joke." People don't want a president who is too cozy with Russia and doing Putin name dropping.
I'm sorry I just can't trust Trump. My gut says don't do it. I don't think he can or would deliver all these promises he is claiming. He's power hungry and can't seem to predict what other people/countries will/would do. Is he going to close out every conversation with "So Sue Me?
I'm not a Hillary fan and it has nothing to do with Benghazi. That has been spun so many times one wouldn't think there was a Secretary of Defense or a Department of Defense also making decisions. Now they make it sound like Benghazi was some big Embassy. It wasn't, it was a spy station hidden behind the word "Consulante" Consulantes are much smaller, less important and would not have been guarded as heavily anyway. It was guarded primarily by a few X Marines acting as contractors.What happened was very sad and embarrassing with a enough blame to go around.
Chris Stevens had been told to leave as they couldn't protect him, and he chose to stay. Blaming one person for what happened is just a cheap shot as far as I'm concerned. Where was military intelligence?
Screw ups all around.
I can't vote for Trump. He really scares me. I'm not sure what I'm going to do.I was very open minded about him and willing to take everything into consideration, but not any more.
My best hope, if he does get in, is that he will go do all the glad handing and let the VP be the real President.
My information comes from a young Marine of several tours who is finally home to stay.

redcliffsw · July 29, 2016, 07:12:51 AM

Republicans brought socialism to America with Lincoln's treason in 1861 and they're still big-time socialists today.

You'll find a way to vote for Hillary because you appear to be more like her brand of socialism. Tyrants will use government to make us do what they want. The dream of tyrants is not liberty, it's socialism, whether it be communist, nazi or dictatorship.