The destructive that wants the US of A to be part of the Caliphate ?

[redcliffsw]

We really ought to get the socialists/neocons out of the Federal government.   

[Varmit]

Frankly...I tho k we should go to war with Iran! Well...not so much war as we should destroy them completely! They are the world's biggest supporter of terrorism and pose an immediated danger to us and our allies. We should under no circumstances enter into a "deal" with them, we don't need to! We have these things called B2 bombers that we should use to insure they never have the ability to obtain nuclear weapons. The only problem is that our current gutless, no balls having administration won't do it.

[Diane Amberg]

and then what?

[Anmar]

Frankly...I tho k we should go to war with Iran! Well...not so much war as we should destroy them completely! They are the world's biggest supporter of terrorism and pose an immediated danger to us and our allies. We should under no circumstances enter into a "deal" with them, we don't need to! We have these things called B2 bombers that we should use to insure they never have the ability to obtain nuclear weapons. The only problem is that our current gutless, no balls having administration won't do it.

I hope you're joking....

[Diane Amberg]

Nope, he isn't. He wants to kill' em all and can't think beyond that.There would be a multiplier effect that would be worse than any James Bond film. He doesn't seem to have the ability to predict the response of others. Too many comic books?

[Ross]

Anmar, First I'll admit all the names associated with Islam Terrorism such as:

1. alQuida
2. Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
3. Boko Haram the jihadist group
4. ISIS
5. Kataib Hezbollah
6. Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Quds Force supporting terrorist groups
7 .Haqqani Network
8. Pakistani Taliban
9. Turkistan Islamic Party
10. Quetta Shura Taliban
And many others to many to post all of them.

All the names and groups of terrorists can be confusing but none the less they allappear to be calling for the Death of America. What happens if they all merge?

And the fact that Obama has aided possibly more than one group to grow immensely is and was the means to an end that failed and back fired on him.

The beheadings,
the execution of civilians,
the burning alive,
the drownings of men in a metal cage in a swimming pool,
the raping and
the forcing women and girls as young as 11 years old
into prostitution and sex slavery is just plain wrong.
Even as they wave their Quaran around as proof that their god Allah approves of these activities, it is still wrong.

The fact they are recruiting terrorist here, with-in the U.S. and that Obama seems to be making it very easy for Islamic terrorists to enter the U.S., places you and me and everyone else in harms way.

The fact that they keep shouting death to Israel and America should be enough to convince anyone something needs to be done, but what? It also proves they have no intention of honoring any kind of deal or treaty. If there is anything legit about the deal or treaty there should be no reason for secrecy form "We The People". But the secrecy is there and secret side deals are there. Which simply adds up to wrongdoing, in my opinion.

Some say drop a nuclear bomb on them and destroy all of them, of course, because these terrorist groups are such a very strong threat, that line of thinking is sort of rational. But I can not agree with that. It would kill far to many innocent people, which is referred to as collateral damage.

We have, what is known as bunker buster bombs two of them one right after the other, at various locations could destroy all their centrifuges and other nuclear related equipment, such ICBM's.
We could put boots on the ground and take the oil fields away for them as it is their major source of financial support. We could have Obama stopped from providing financial and other non-financial support.

I don't know the answers, but I do agree, it is a very serious problem and needs the proper attention. We as a nation have a very viable threat to deal with. And not just for us, but for the innocent people being slaughtered and raped and forced into sex slavery in ther countries.

Apparently the original meaning of Jihad is: (English pronunciation: /dʒɪˈhɑːd/; Arabic: جهاد‎ jihād [dʒiˈhæːd]) is an Islamic term referring to the religious duty of Muslims to maintain the religion. In Arabic, the word jihād is a noun meaning "to strive, to apply oneself, to struggle, to persevere.

But the apparent meaning of Jihad today is: a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty and an opportunity to kill the infidels or non-belivers of Allah.

This is the best, I can do Anmar.

We only have the news media to get information, and we have a Federal Government we can not trust.


But unlike Diane, I am not calling anyone names and attempting to put anyone down, because they have stated their feelings.

and then what?

Nope, he isn't. He wants to kill' em all and can't think beyond that.There would be a multiplier effect that would be worse than any James Bond film. He doesn't seem to have the ability to predict the response of others. Too many comic books?

You can delete these posts now, Diane, I have them quoted right here.

[Ross]

Obama is removing the only aircraft carrieir we have in the Persian Gulf.

And suddenly the US is pulling our Patriot Missiles from Turkey.

These have been there as deterants to the Islamic State.

It makes no sense what so ever to make such a massive stratigical error.

Unless of course it is one of the secret side deals Obama has made with Syria and ISIS to further aid their's and his cause.

[Anmar]

Ross, I'll start with your last point first.  Obama is withdrawing the patriot missile from Turkey because Turkey screwed us in the fight against ISIS.  It has nothing to do with helping anyone.  ISIS doesn't have missiles anyway, so there's nothing for the Patriots to shoot down.  The only people out there with missiles that have any animosity towards Turkey is Syria, and they won't use them against Turkey.  Syria has enough problems on their own without a full blown war against Turkey.  I haven't heard anything about a carrier, but if true, I am not surprised.  Its time the Arabs start dealing with their own problems.  They have the means.  We have been trying to help the middle east solve problems since the end of wwI when woodrow wilson tried to convince the British and French to let the Arabs govern themselves.  The only thing we've learned is that we are very good at making enemies.

Speaking of enemies, you listed a bunch of groups, and said you're worried about them uniting.  Don't worry, they never will.  Every one of those groups is ideologically different than the next.  And there's a funny thing about extremist wackos, they don't get along well with other people. 

I'm glad you recognize that dropping nukes is not a solution.  After 15 years of this endless war against "terror" I think people are starting to realize that the only thing we are accomplishing is creating more people who hate us.  Arabs are like that.  You kill one guy, now that guy's brother and kids and cousins now all want to kill you.  Its a culture of revenge.  Eye for an eye.  Going to war without first understanding your enemy is stupidity, and one of the worse mistakes a nation can make, but thats what we did.  Thanks Neoconservatives and sell out politicians. 

In my mind, the best solution is to withdraw, and let them figure it out.  We should stop trying to put ourselves in everyone else's business.  Lets secure our borders, focus on our economy, pay down our debts and fix our crumbling infrastructure.  We've made a lot of mistakes, lets stop making them.

[Varmit]

Anmar and Diane...the answer to your very simplistic questions is a simple one. The "and then what?" Question is answered by simply crushing any group that threatens our country and the sovereignty of our best ally, Israel. As for Muslims wanting to continue to wage war on us that is something that will never change. America is a country that was founded on Christian values and that is something that Muslims will never understand and never leave in peace. The "leave them alone and they will leave us alone" approach simply will not work. Why on earth would we want to allow a group that would slaughter children that refuse to convert to Islam to exist? Iran and those Muslims that are in control of Iran and the terrorists they support should be wiped out completely. To believe peace is possible with people like that is both naive and dangerous.

[Anmar]

Anmar and Diane...the answer to your very simplistic questions is a simple one. The "and then what?" Question is answered by simply crushing any group that threatens our country and the sovereignty of our best ally, Israel. As for Muslims wanting to continue to wage war on us that is something that will never change. America is a country that was founded on Christian values and that is something that Muslims will never understand and never leave in peace. The "leave them alone and they will leave us alone" approach simply will not work. Why on earth would we want to allow a group that would slaughter children that refuse to convert to Islam to exist? Iran and those Muslims that are in control of Iran and the terrorists they support should be wiped out completely. To believe peace is possible with people like that is both naive and dangerous.

For the first 150 years or so of our country's existence, Muslims and that Arab world didn't give a damn about US.  They only started paying attention after we started meddling with their affairs.  For example, propping up dictators, stealing land, stealing oil, assassinating and torturing people, etc. etc.

I don't think they will leave us alone.  But I do know that what we are doing, and have been doing, is only making it worse.