How's them public schools working for ya?

[Diane Amberg]

OK folks ,now it's your turn. You demanded I tell you my understanding of assault weapons, but I don't notice any real definitions from any of you. So how 'bout it... define an assault weapon for poor little ignorant me. So then I can pick them all apart like Varmit does and run off and draw conclusions with no basis, and put things in your mouths according to some strange unearthly version of ''logic." Now Varmit try to follow your own rules, please.

[jarhead]

Diane,
I aint up to nothing---just seeking clear definitions.

Quote from Diane:
I do know the difference, the AR15 for example. There is the auto and the semi version and the M-16 from the same parent.

Now we are getting somewhere. There is no ( unless illegally -modified ) AR-15 that is fully auto. You are still confusing things when you say----
Quote "I still say I don't understand the civilian attraction to military assault weapons" when  before you said---"To me an assault weapon is one in use by the military in combat. It isn't in regular use by civilians"
Us rednecks are not attracted to the military assault weapons. It is the AR's SKS's and AK's that look like a military weapon but not the same.
Unless Delaware's hunting laws are different than everyone else's I would say Pugs never shot ducks with an AK-47 because it's against the law to shoot water fowl with a rifle but You will just have to ask him.

[jarhead]

I aint Varmit but to me assault weapon is just a Liberal definition of a black gun used to strike fear in the sheep's hearts.

[Varmit]

To me an assault weapon is one in use by the military in combat. It isn't in regular use by civilians. Yes, they are often equipped with larger magazines. They are auto or semi auto and have what ever adaptations give the military an advantage. You asked for short so I won't list them. 

As far as assault weapons, I don't know why the non military needs them,

Varmit..black powder? Where are you getting all those unbased conclusions? I never said any such thing and you know it. It is absolutely NOT fact that areas with weapons have less violence.They know they are all armed and they have gun fights any way. That's how so many innocent people get shot. They get in the way of the gangs and drug toughs. Ya really went off the deep end misinterpreting what I wrote didn't ya? so much for my giving honest answers. No more. Now take your .22 and go home.

I did not misquote or "run off and draw conclusions with no basis, and put things in your mouths according to some strange unearthly version of ''logic."  You stated yourself that non military do not need them.  Last time I checked Law enforcement were not military personnel.  They are civilians, just like the rest of us.
As for the AR-15...there are no fully automatic versions.  An AR-15 is a semi auto version of the M4 carbine, which by the way, isn't fully auto either.  It has a single shot and 3 round burst selector.  You might want to seek out a different "weapons expert".

If its not fact that areas that have a greater concentration of armed civilians have less crime then how do you explain the drop in floridas crime when they allowed concealed carry?  How do you explain the rise in crime in areas that have strict form of gun control such as great britian, austriallia, chicago?

[jarhead]

What is going on in our schools anymore? Every few days there is a report of this behavior. I would imagine that for every case that gets reported there are many, many cases that fly under the radar. They want to ban guns because of children in schools getting killed or wounded. Well, guess what---there are a lot of kids being "mentally wounded" by these perverts. What's next? Ban teachers? Now before I catch a bunch of flak, I do know there are lots of good teachers out there that have nothing but goals to teach young minds and love the children but this seems to be getting epidemic.

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A New Jersey high school teacher has been arrested for allegedly having a sexual relationship with a student, authorities said.

Jennalin Garcia-Calle, a 28-year-old algebra teacher at Plainfield High School, was arrested Thursday in Davie, Fla., and charged with second-degree sexual assault and fourth-degree child abuse.

According to prosecutors, Garcia-Calle began the relationship with the 16-year-old boy in December. Prosecutors allege that at least three sexual encounters occurred in a classroom inside the school.


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"The boy is not at a stage in his life where he's able to make that type of legal and quite frankly mature enough decision," said Union County Prosecutor Theodore Romankow

[Ross]

Here are a couple of recent articles from the Wall Street Journal I thought you might find interesting about education.   

From the Wall Street Journal.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323854904578264253178260028.html

From the Wichita Eagle.
http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/24/2579419/outgoing-kansas-board-of-education.html#storylink=cpy

[Diane Amberg]

Wow, what fun..now you folks are starting to contradict each other, no surprise there... and what is a bilbe belt anyway? Some sort of hobbit gear? Sorry I'm behind, but I was writing while others were posting about something else.
So, now we know, on the one hand ,any weapon can be used at anytime by the military ,an AR15 is or is not available as an auto (M-16) or semi auto, or can be one for the military and be adapted by anybody for either use, legal or otherwise. The M-16,M-4,AR15 bunch are all part of a whole family of similar weapons with various differences. So ? What's the point?
  I just came home from having lunch with a girlfriend and her Vietman Vet husband and another girlfriend who just retired as a teacher. You can guess what we talked about. and it wasn't black powder like that liar Varmit wrote. As far as what weapons people ''need"...what about it?...it depends, now doesn't it? I wouldn't use a Hopkins lure to catch a sunfish either...wrong tackle. If you don't agree among yourselves, don't ask me for answers!
We here do not consider any of our sworn officers to be "civilians"...perhaps just a regional thing.
 And Pugs doesn't need any weapon to get ducks. He tells terrible jokes and while they are laughing he scoops them into his duck bag. Nobody ever said he used an AK47 to get ducks. Where do you people get this stuff?
Varmit,one more time I am going to ask nicely. STOP REWRITING WHAT I WRITE IN THE WAY YOU WANT ME TO HAVE WRITTEN IT.  These readers can decide what I mean for themselves. I did not ''state"that non military do not need assault weapons,I asked a question about it. Go back to #17 and get it right. sheesh.
Now lets see how badly you can screw up all the information on Sandy Hook. Do you even know what a hook is? Now tell me how many and what weapon/s were used. Bet ya can't all agree.

[Diane Amberg]

To change subjects,I totally agree.I don't have a clue as to what is in these teachers heads, male or female. That breaks a sacred trust that teachers have always adhered to. When there is a problem,the teacher is one you can always go to.It makes me  sick.

[jarhead]

Diane,
I guess I missed it---would you like to point out the contradictions ?
Quote from Diane
Nobody ever said he used an AK47 to get ducks. Where do you people get this stuff?

I guess I came up with this stuff by what you said below
Quote from Diane:
''Pugs'' just went duck hunting...I'll have to ask him why he didn't pine away for an assault weapon to bring those birds down.
 
Quote from Diane:
I did not ''state"that non military do not need assault weapons,I asked a question about it. Go back to #17 and get it right. sheesh.

Oh yes you did Diane. I went back to your reply # 17 and it's right below. There is no question there.

Quote from Diane
As far as assault weapons, I don't know why the non military needs them, but I'm not sure how I really feel about them

And what's with "like that liar Varmit wrote" You get on your high horse and preach about the vile people calling you names and how you hate the name calling but you my dear lady are the worst offender on this forum when it comes to calling people names . I don't like to stoop to your level but I will and call you a name. You are a bully in the first degree. I shudder to think that decades ago you taught children with your bullying attitude and ways

[Diane Amberg]

I stand by exactly what I said. You had asked for my opinion and yet when I gave it you tore me apart. Now go look at what Varmit said  #47.It's not what I had really said at all. I did not state that the non military doesn't need them.There is an implied question there, and it still stands. He lied and I'll call that as I see it.
Let me rephrase my "question"to make it easier to understand. "Why does the non military need assault weapons?I'm not sure how I  feel about them." Now go back and read what Varmit said.....and black powder? Please show me where I ever said anything about black powder weapons.
I wondered what you were really up to and now I know. I was right ,you can't be trusted. I don't write my opinions to please anybody,take it or leave it.Insulting me doesn't make my opinion any less valid. Varmit misquoted me at best and lied at worst. Ya don't like it?Then stop reading what I write and stop asking my opinion. How does defending what I really said make me a bully? Wouldn't you stand up for yourself? black powder indeed!