Ambassador killed in Libya

Started by larryJ, September 12, 2012, 08:36:41 AM

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larryJ

(OMG, Larryj is going to post something in Poliitics.......)

I am curious about the legalities of this killing of this ambassador.  Isn't an embassy considered "sovereign territory?"  So a murder of this sort could be considered an act of war, right?  I saw a tweet from one guy that said we should just level the whole area and pave it.  I also see that Hillary has given it lip service. 

Obviously, I am sorta angry about this.  (Why else would I be in politics?)  What kind of reaction should there be?  Wars have been started for reasons less serious than this.

Or, am I wrong? 

Larry (why am I in Politics) j
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Patriot

Quote from: larryJ on September 12, 2012, 08:36:41 AM
Isn't an embassy considered "sovereign territory?"  So a murder of this sort could be considered an act of war, right?  I saw a tweet from one guy that said we should just level the whole area and pave it.  I also see that Hillary has given it lip service. 

Obviously, I am sorta angry about this.  (Why else would I be in politics?)  What kind of reaction should there be?  Wars have been started for reasons less serious than this.

Yes and yes!  And you should be angry!  These things don't happen unless the victim (us in this case) appear weak to the aggressors.  This is the cherry on top of the Jimmy Carter remake.  Four more years? 


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jarhead

Doc, You are too nice--- "sorta angry ?"--- let it all hang out,  --- like me, you are mad enough about this to chew up railroad spikes and shit out 16 penny nails. Granted, I have been called a war monger, but we can not let this kind of crap continue. It has to be nipped in the bud---NOW !!!.
Every day when I read the news I want to pull ol Sarge's three hairs out. We got ol Ben from Israel wanting to talk to the POTUS, but oh no---he's too busy campaigning to worry about Iran wiping Israel from the face of the earth. I hope when ol Ben finally catches up with him, he Jap slaps that big eared clown and tells him how the cow ate the cabbage.
Next news item---some school principal in Oregon says the kiddies bringing P&J sandwiches in their lunch is racist. Yep, peanut and jelly sandwiches is an American thing and the poor kids from Somalia or Mexico find it offensive. What's next---only shit sandwiches to appease  the Somalia pups---but---but--what if a Latino child brings tacos--will that offend a Scotts/ Irish child ? Hell no, Jose and little William Wallace will trade half their sandwiches to each other. This aint nothing but a shit stirring liberal teacher wanting to be on The Today Show for her Andy Warhol moment
Back to Libya. I figger one American life is worth is worth 3,413 of those Muslim Brotherhood bastards---so 4 Americans equals---------a whole bunch of them.. Now Doc, aint you sorry you sent me into a rant, by entering the politics world?

larryJ

No, Jar, I ain't sorry.  I think there should be a lot of people ticked about this.  I think the whole country should be ticked about this.  Back in the day when we were young pups, this country would have gone there the next day and kicked butt and taken names later..........well, maybe not the names part.  I think the whole Middle East should be put on notice that such an act is not acceptable and look out.......here we come!  Start with the idiots that attacked the embassy and weed out the rest.  Here in America we have the right given by our Constitution to yell and scream all we want, but murder is not included in that document.  I haven't looked, but if there is a Libyan embassy here, they should be sent home before some of our "radicals" decide to hand out out a little vigilante justice.  Correction.....they should just be kicked out of the country, period.  To heck with the fact that we get oil from them.  We should just tell them to duck and cover.  I am anxious to see if there is any deeper action taken by the current Libyan leaders to get those responsible for this terrible incident other than the "apology" being currently issued.  I highly doubt it because the new government doesn't seem to have control over things.  All this over a stupid film made by an American in America where we have the right to say what we feel. 

Larry (getting madder by the minute) j
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Patriot

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jarhead

Doc,
Looking in the rear view mirror, we wouldn't have all the problems we have today if we had handled the Iran hostage deal, from back in the 70's, differently. These  killings at our embassy in Libya has the same smell to it. Not to worry though because the killers will be brought to justice, so says our tough CiC. Why hell, they are ending in a "fast team' of 50 Marines, as we speak ( not sure why so many Marines when a reinforced squad should have be sufficient )
Yes, that is a light hearted stab at humor when this is a serious situation because that is the only way I can keep my sanity. If that is all Prez obama is going to do, then it will be just like Peanuts Carter sitting on his dead gonads while 50 + Americans languished in some shit hole for over a year. Then getting close to election time the POS, FINALLY decided to TRY and rescue them----why am I even going there ? When that chopper crashed and them bastards drug the charred remains of those Marines thru their streets, spitting on them, is probably the closest I ever came to "snapping " and going off the deep end---and my blood boils to even think about it again.
If , and that's a big if, the POTUS does anything it will be because his re-election is in danger and he might have to sacrifice some of his 'brothers" and call them collateral damage, just to look strong. Not for a second do I doubt this whole thing was not orchestrated just for his re-election bid---so we are in a quandary here---let the world see we are weak and they can kill us at will---or help what's his face win another term ? My vote---kill all the sons a bitches , plant Old Glory on their soil, and get to pumping OUR oil wells.

larryJ

Patriot, you reminded me of a an incident that occurred while I was in Korea.  There was a Turkish regiment there as part of the allied forces.  We were driving by their area one day and saw a Korean strapped to their front gate.  And forgive me for being blunt, he was severely mutilated and dead.  The story was he was caught inside the compound stealing from the (muslim) Turks.  They didn't have any more problems after that.

Patriot, right on...we need more leaders like Black Jack.

Jar, speaking of Marines, were there supposed to be some guarding the Embassy?  I will have to check that out.  Even if there were, I am sure they were out-manned. 

Larry (still in politics) j
HELP!  I'm talking and I can't shut up!

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Patriot

Quote from: jarhead on September 12, 2012, 12:35:22 PM
...then it will be just like Peanuts Carter sitting on his dead gonads while 50 + Americans languished in some shit hole for over a year. Then getting close to election time the POS, FINALLY decided to TRY and rescue them----why am I even going there ? When that chopper crashed...

I was reading daily intel reports at that time... don't forget the C-130s we had to leave there because some dumbass didn't take into account what desert sand sucked into the prop intakes would do.  Talk about losing your car keys!

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srkruzich

oh i'm pissed as hell about too and this do nothing coward pu**Y that is playing As the POTUS, hasn't released the dogs on this pipsqueak shithole of a country. Just nuke the damn fools and use it as a glass factory.
Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

Patriot

Quote from: srkruzich on September 12, 2012, 01:10:40 PM
oh i'm pissed as hell about too and this do nothing coward pu**Y that is playing As the POTUS, hasn't released the dogs on this pipsqueak shithole of a country. Just nuke the damn fools and use it as a glass factory.


Now, now.. the libs will want to try diplomacy first.  Maybe a round of desert golf and a pyramid peanut summit will smooth things over.  Oh, and let's get the Justice Department to go after that American who made the flick that supposedly set this whole thing off.  And shame You Tube for keeping it up for all to see. That'll show those peace loving terrorists we're serious!

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Gun control means never having to fire twice.
Social engineering, left OR right usually ends in a train wreck.

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