Anyone know who this is??

Started by Teresa, August 14, 2012, 08:33:52 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Teresa

Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History !

Warph

That looks like Vernon Gurtz, by golly.  Vernon Gurtz 20, is the eldest son of Donald and Tracey Gurtz, whose real names are Andrei Bezrukov and Yelena Vavilova.  Vernon became a problem for U.S. authorities from the outset of the spy scandal.  He had already finished his sophomore year at George Washington University and went into the Air force. When A/2C Gurtz was home on leave, his parents were arrested by U.S. authorities.  Following the deportation of the Russian agents and Vernon from the United States, Vernon informed the the A.F. that he still planned to continue his enlistment when he got back to the U.S..  But since Vernon reportedly knew sensitive details about his parents' activities, Russian authorities have not allowed him to return to the United States.

On July 31, 1979 The Wall Street Journal reported that the FBI had determined Vernon Gurtz's desire to serve Russia's intelligence services after bugging the Gurtz' home.  According to FBI officials, Vernon's parents told their son they wanted him to follow in their footsteps, after which he stood up and swore allegiance to "Mother Russia," the Journal said.

As a result of this article, many journalists concluded that the Russian spies could have posed a greater threat to U.S. national security than was thought two years ago because their children grew up in that country and could better integrate into American life and one day infiltrate U.S. government agencies.

In 1971, the United States and Russia interpreted the spy scandal differently.  Washington saw it as proof of the failure and backwardness of Russian intelligence, while Moscow claimed it was a proud achievement that it could infiltrate U.S. society.  Russian leaders believed the Foreign Intelligence Service had finally restored the prestigious status that it lost after the end of the Cold War.

At the time, while with the Dept. of State, I explained to U.S. journalists that Russia's secret operation was a complete failure.  After all, the spies had been working undercover for years and had failed to obtain a single government secret.  What's more, the Russian side considered the operation a success only because the agents had managed to initially fool U.S. authorities with fake passports.  But the agents did absolutely nothing of importance while in the United States, so their accomplishment of securing fake passports was negligible at best.

This notion that a spy operation is successful by simply establishing a physical presence in a foreign country was inherited by the Foreign Intelligence Service from its predecessor, the KGB.   It is worth noting that the Foreign Intelligence Service is the only intelligence agency in Russia that was not subjected to post-Soviet reforms.  It was simply spun off into a separate agency after the Soviet collapse.  As a result, the agency kept all of the outdated traditions and practices of the KGB without understanding that they have no relevance to today's environment.

One of the largest anachronisms of this Soviet legacy was the practice of sending Russian citizens to live in the West undercover.  This emerged in the late 1940s when new secret agents were needed to replace a decreasing supply of Communist sympathizers in the West.  In reality, the practice of using Communist sympathizers was never really successful anyway because they did not have professional intelligence backgrounds, nor did they have the social connections needed to secure sensitive government posts.  Faced with a shortage of foreign agents,  Russian intelligence came up with the idea of sending sleeper agents that Moscow hoped would be able to strike from within Western society at the needed moment.... that is, if the Cold War turned hot.

Why has this outdated practice continued in Russia when almost every other country gave it up many years ago?  Today, one of the biggest problems is that the Foreign Intelligence Service answers directly to President Vladimir Putin, not to the parliament or the public.  It was therefore a relatively easy task to convince Putin of the wisdom of continuing the old tradition of supporting sleeper agents in foreign countries.  What's more, the opportunity to plant Russian agents in the United States appealed to Putin's ongoing desire to outdo Russia's former Cold War enemy any way he could.  Still stuck in the past, Putin views this superpower rivalry much in the same way he wants Russian athletes to get more medals than the Americans at the Olympic Games.

Judging by The Wall Street Journal article, the United States has finally understood and accepted Russia's logic.  Only that logic could explain why U.S. authorities are wondering what the naturalized children of the spies could have accomplished in five or six years had they graduated from U.S. universities and their parents' true identity remained undetected.  In fact, the renewed U.S. concern over the spy incident is the best possible gift that the Foreign Intelligence Service, with its wounded pride, could have received.

But there is another, more mundane explanation why Vernon Gurtz wanted to continue his enlistment with the Air Force.  When the young man learned that his parents earned so much money for simply living in the United States and doing absolutely nothing, he could not resist the temptation to follow in their footsteps and get the cushiest job on Earth.

So I believe, Teresa.... that photo is A/2c Vernon Gurtz... or maybe not.
"Every once in a while I just have a compelling need to shoot my mouth off." 
--Warph

"If you don't have a sense of humor, you probably don't have any sense at all."
-- Warph

"A gun is like a parachute.  If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."

Diane Amberg


jarhead

I don't know who the Fly-Boy is but he looks like a dead beat. I know the dog. Tattoo number OA12. Think I recognize that VC that is camouflaged in the bush behind him.

Mongo

Maybe A Young Guy Morgan Denton ???????  My time in Howard it seemed that he had a dog with him most of the time and was a pilot in the Air Force or National Guard. Just a Guess!!!!! 

Janet Harrington


Janet Harrington

Beautiful dog and good looking man in uniform.

jarhead

Janet,
Sarge ? The only way I think you get get ol Sarge to smile that big is if he out fished me---and that aint gonna happen

Warph



Yeah.... that's Vernon Gurtz alright, better known as Yuri Bezrukov.   Master Russian spy.  I never forget a face.  He'ed be old and decrepit and in poor condition by now...dilapidated, crumbling, decaying, falling to pieces, falling apart, on his last legs, broken-down, battered, rickety old fart.  If I know Yuri, he's probabley laid up in some rest home somewhere in Delaware or southern PA. eating mush and potato soup three times a day.  What I can't figure out is how Teresa got hold of his photo? 

Hmmm.... does Teresa speak Russian or Serbian.  Gde je Juri, Tereza?  FBI želi da ga.
"Every once in a while I just have a compelling need to shoot my mouth off." 
--Warph

"If you don't have a sense of humor, you probably don't have any sense at all."
-- Warph

"A gun is like a parachute.  If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."

jarhead

Warph,
For the first time that I know of, you are wrong. That aint ol Yuri. Janet was right---it's our own ol Sarge in Nam with his sentry dog, Shep at Cam Rahn Bay. I gave a hint when I said he looked like a Dead Beat. Sarge played and sang with a rock band in the 60's called the Dead Deats (quite fitting I might add )." They came all the way from Grove , Oklahoma, so lets give them a big hand " They played for the fair dances at both Howard and Longton , and coming all the way from Grove,Ok., they just as well been part of the British invasion, to us. To Janet who says he is good looking---all I can say is yes, being handsome runs deep in this bloodline. Just ask Pistol Packing Blondie. ;D
Cousin Jarhead

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk