Civil War Terror: Sherman's March To The Sea

Started by Warph, July 07, 2012, 09:58:14 PM

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Diane Amberg

You are still talking about white soldiers.You never mention the blacks except to say how many there were and that they volunteered to go. You've never told about black captives.  Lincoln supposedly stopped trading prisoners because the black prisoners weren't included, weren't traded, even if they were free men, were treated as runaway slaves and were often killed. I'll have to pull out some old books and look for more detail.
  The "slave catchers" did indeed roam around through the slave states sometimes even kidnapping slaves from their owners property and writing them up as if they had been caught trying to run away. Awful people! Usually they stayed on the move, weren't even residents of the the states they were poaching in, and would fence the captives to anybody who would buy them....  Just like thieves and burglars today. If nobody was willing to buy the slaves, the market would have dried up.
True runaways who were caught were sometimes taken back to their owners for a finders fee, but other times were sold at an even higher price to a new owner.  War doesn't bring out the best in people and there are always those  skunks who will take advantage, just as today.
Waldo, thanks for your information.

srkruzich

Yeah the slave traders which were primarily from New York City, were doing that.  Though they didn't get to run through the south like you say they were, they primarily ran through border states catching runaways and freemen, then taking them to port and selling them to brazil, rio, cuba, mobile. 
Their average haul was around a million dollars per ship.  As far as the assertation that black pow's in the south were just killed to be killed, that might be true but i can find no records of it that aren't northern claims. We can find however the northerns own records stating they executed blacks for "desertion" from the CSA.  Some did desert from being conscripted into service by their owners.  Most did not and those that did run and desert, were  usually killed by the black soldiers not the white soldiers.  THe blacks were much harsher than their white counterparts.
Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

redcliffsw


Slavery was legal back then.

Union blacks were expendable and were placed out front to charge the Confederate lines.

 

srkruzich

Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

redcliffsw


Winbush's grandfather attended 39 annual national Confederate veterans conventions just like many other black Confederate veterans.

Nowadays blacks and whites do not have much understanding of the stand their Confederate ancestors made.  The South was
right.

Diane Amberg

#45
What does it matter? The south lost! How about moving on and working on improving our country of today, both north and south? Do you want apartheid? We are not South Africa.You know the history of Australia? You want to try that?  Ya want a bunch of little violent banana republics? I can't figure out what you are after.

redcliffsw


The north defeated the USA - the USA lost the war.  It matters.

It was your yankee people who promoted separation after the War during Reconstruction.  The northern
Republicans wanted the blacks and whites apart.

The black slaves were freed from the plantations and private ownship only to be exchanged into enslavement by the Feds.

You must have a heavy dose of Federal indoctrination because you don't have a clue.
   

Diane Amberg

Interestingly enough, at the time of the Civil War, I had nobody living in any traditionally "Yankee" states except my Great Grandfather Amberg who took someone else's place from New York and joined the Union Army from there. The rest were in Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Iowa, Alabama,Texas, and more were further south than that. We had people fighting on both sides, as I've said before, which for some reason you refuse to acknowledge. I have lots of "clues".
   I at least know the war has been over for a very long time. Reconstruction was a terrible time for many states, but I claim nobody involved in that. By then my people were farmers and ranchers and railroad people and Grandpa went into the 7th Cavalry when it was formed and was later transferred to the 5th. I still say slavery is wrong. I will never accept any excuse for it. People have no business making a living off the backs of others unless the people are free workers and are paid, even if its poor wages.

redcliffsw

#48

So was Yankee Amberg fighting to abolish slavery or to make the States remain in the Union by force?


upoladeb

so Diane does that mean sweat shops are o.k.?

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