The U.S. Flag vs. the Christian Flag . . .

redcliffsw · July 03, 2012, 10:32:09 AM

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IMHO America was founded on freedom. This is America. It should fly high and proud.
Religion can be worshipped as to anyone's belief. It is a right to be practiced UNDER the Symbol of America.
Semantics of which is first: God or Religion, is a no brainer, and that is exactly what it is, a twist of meaning on a literal basis.
God is a personal thing. America is a collective being. Separate flags. separate issues.

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If it's founded on freedom, then the States ought to be at liberty to secede. Right? A church should not have to
qualify for an exemption. Right?

Looks like Flint is a real flag coder for sure. The USA never had such a flag code until the 1920's. The Pledge of Allegiance is another
late invention that our founding fathers never repeated and they would never have supported such an oath in the first place.. Not all
members of the American Legion support the flag code or recite the Pledge of Allegiance and that's understandable too.

Last time I was at the Elk County Courthouse, the Kansas State flag was not being flown on the outside two (2) poles and only the
U S Flag was on both poles. Is that what the flag code is all about? Federalization and nationalization of the Country? Socialism?
Sure looks like it.

srkruzich · July 03, 2012, 11:03:46 AM

Quote from: redcliffsw on July 03, 2012, 10:32:09 AM
[quote author=readyaimduck link=topic=13974.msg192068#msg192068 date=1341267711

IMHO America was founded on freedom. This is America. It should fly high and proud.
Religion can be worshipped as to anyone's belief. It is a right to be practiced UNDER the Symbol of America.
Semantics of which is first: God or Religion, is a no brainer, and that is exactly what it is, a twist of meaning on a literal basis.
God is a personal thing. America is a collective being. Separate flags. separate issues.

ready

If it's founded on freedom, then the States ought to be at liberty to secede. Right? A church should not have to
qualify for an exemption. Right?

Looks like Flint is a real flag coder for sure. The USA never had such a flag code until the 1920's. The Pledge of Allegiance is another
late invention that our founding fathers never repeated and they would never have supported such an oath in the first place.. Not all
members of the American Legion support the flag code or recite the Pledge of Allegiance and that's understandable too.

Last time I was at the Elk County Courthouse, the Kansas State flag was not being flown on the outside two (2) poles and only the
U S Flag was on both poles. Is that what the flag code is all about? Federalization and nationalization of the Country? Socialism?
Sure looks like it.

If they're not flying the state flag and or county/municiple flag they should be. You go to court under elk county courts, your not under the federal courts your under state authority. So the state flag should be flown over the courthouse not a federal flag. You can fly both but like i said before the state flag is sovereign to the federal flag within the state and county borders. UNLESS its federal building. IF you research flags you will find this to be true all the way back to the beginning of flags which started with jews. Each tribe had its flag, I.e. States which were flown over each tribes encampment. there were 12 encampments. They all carried their banners wherever theywent in war time and in peacetime. Even when they were given a king the tribal banners werre supreme in each encampment and the nations flag was flown i the kings palace and goverment buidings.

Mom70x7 · July 03, 2012, 01:09:14 PM

The original title - the U.S. Flag vs the Christian Flag led me to this article, which basically says the U.S. Flag doesn't belong in a sanctuary.

http://www.ministrymatters.com/all/article/entry/2946/if-you-love-that-flag-dont-put-it-in-the-sanctuary

Warph · July 03, 2012, 01:34:31 PM

Have to agree with Ready,

frawin · July 03, 2012, 03:18:16 PM

I am with Warph and Cat on this, I agree with Ready. I am sure my 4 brothers that served in WWII and or Korea and or Vietnam would agree as well. Sounds like some of you are Obamacrats, when he didn't honor the flag before the election there was a lot of people that really put him down and rightfully so.

readyaimduck · July 03, 2012, 04:26:18 PM

QuoteIf it's founded on freedom, then the States ought to be at liberty to secede. Right? A church should not have to
qualify for an exemption. Right?

That's a whole another thread!
ready

srkruzich · July 03, 2012, 04:34:51 PM

Quote from: frawin on July 03, 2012, 03:18:16 PM
I am with Warph and Cat on this, I agree with Ready. I am sure my 4 brothers that served in WWII and or Korea and or Vietnam would agree as well. Sounds like some of you are Obamacrats, when he didn't honor the flag before the election there was a lot of people that really put him down and rightfully so.

I have refused to swear that socialist oath since highschool when i learned it was a socialist/communist that wrote it. This was before the liberals got hold of our schools and tried to brainwash kids into believing it is patriotic to swear this oath to the federal state. NO where does it say in this oath or mention that I am not a citizen of the United States but that i am a Citizen of the state in which i reside. I am a citizen of America not some corporate entity.

All i said was i agree with Obama on one issue that is swearing a oath to a nationalist state. PLUS get this its AGAINST MY RELIGIOUS beliefs to swear a oath Read the bible folks.

So folks if you sweat this oath your going against christ.

Jam 5:12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and [your] nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.

srkruzich · July 03, 2012, 04:36:50 PM

Quote from: frawin on July 03, 2012, 03:18:16 PM
I am with Warph and Cat on this, I agree with Ready. I am sure my 4 brothers that served in WWII and or Korea and or Vietnam would agree as well. Sounds like some of you are Obamacrats, when he didn't honor the flag before the election there was a lot of people that really put him down and rightfully so.

It is not a honor to the flag it is a oath to the state. YOu want to honor the flag? Treat it with what respect it deserves.

The only thing the flag represents to me and rightfully so is the lives of the men who died for our freedom. THAT ALSO INCLUDES the Confederate battle flag as well as those heros stood in defense for our freedoms as well.

redcliffsw · July 04, 2012, 06:37:43 AM

Good point for sure.

Patriot · July 04, 2012, 09:21:58 AM

Quote from: Mom70x7 on July 03, 2012, 01:09:14 PM
The original title - the U.S. Flag vs the Christian Flag led me to this article, which basically says the U.S. Flag doesn't belong in a sanctuary.

Valid point, Mom. Perhaps then, since virtually all religions are in subjection to a kingdom not of this earth, there should be no state or federal banner held up in the church.