The U.S. Flag vs. the Christian Flag . . .

[Bullwinkle]

      Geeezzz, wake up and learn how to spell and type. The WAR IS OVER, News Flash, the South LOST!!

    So much for home school , no savior-faire evident in your background.

    You'll no doubt need to Wiki that one. 

[Varmit]

Alright all you stars and stripes fanatics tell me this...If the united states flag is supposed to represent and be a symbol of our greatness and of our freedoms then why does the government find it nessecary to produce a Code (i.e. law) to tell us how to fly it?  Why can't we fly it or not as we as individuals see fit?



Btw, Lee may have surrendered, I sure as hell didn't!

[srkruzich]

Alright all you stars and stripes fanatics tell me this...If the united states flag is supposed to represent and be a symbol of our greatness and of our freedoms then why does the government find it nessecary to produce a Code (i.e. law) to tell us how to fly it?  Why can't we fly it or not as we as individuals see fit?



Btw, Lee may have surrendered, I sure as hell didn't!

That is another technical point the Union didn't want to hear.   To surrende a nation the president of that nation would have had to surrender, not his general.    Jeff davis never surrendered, nor did several of his generals.  The decendants of those who never surrendered are still alive and well and still operate here in the US.    Just never hear about it cause it embarresses the Union tremendously.

[Varmit]

Awww...whats the matter kiddies, cat got your tongue? Or have you just realized that the lines of B.S. you've been fed since you were born about this great FREE society we live in are just that...B.S.

In case you haven't noticed we do not live in a free country anymore. It is not the land of the free and home of the brave, more like the land of the sheep and home of the docile. And I don't care how many dead soldiers you want to hold up and say "they paid for our freedom" espcially those of the so called "greatest generation" from WWII. It is that generation of folks that allowed our government to get to the state it is in now. Did a lot of men die believeing that they were serving their county?...yes. But then those that came home sat by and watched as our freedoms and liberty were progressivly taken away by the very gov't that sent them over there in the first place!!

Then some hanky twisting liberals are gonna have the audacity to tell me how and when I can fly the u.s. flag...i don't think so. From here on out the only flag that will wave on my property has criss crossed bars and thirteen stars! And I dont' give a damn if its veterans day, memorial day, or canadain boxing day.


You talk about the flag code beng about respect...respect for what? Respect for wht ?....lies, oppression, theft?  Respect those if you want, I believe I'll pass. And before you spout off some line about love it or leave it tell me, what unit did you serve in???

[readyaimduck]

You talk about the flag code beng about respect...respect for what? Respect for wht ?....lies, oppression, theft?  Respect those if you want, I believe I'll pass. And before you spout off some line about love it or leave it tell me, what unit did you serve in???

No, I have not served in a unit.  I tried to enlist, but was too old in College.
Respect?  I would think for those that were drafted (pre-draft staus): ....had no choice.
(it was an honor at one time before the draft.)
For those that volunteered?  I give them my respect.  It takes courage to stand for what one believes in.
For those that went into the Viet Nam War???   I understand at this  point that one SHOULD be angry upon returning to grateful soil, as it was an uneccesary donation of lives for what?   a principle.  And the men and women were spat and ignored, tested for weapons by their own government and then turned out to pasture with their MJ and meth or other things.

However, I have said this before and I will say it again (which doesn't make it right, only my opion as to which I support yours also):
This topic is about the flag in a church and should it fly higher than the other one:   I say now.....NO flag should fly in the church and strip away all political both governmental and organized religious idealogyYou fly your Jack Proudly, and I will fly my stripes, stars and bars for my ancestors (pre '60)

If there is a flag in a church, I ackowledge it, but won't get my panties in a wad if one is higher than the other...just like my opinion against all of yours.....
a Forum to speak freely....and I need new panties to tie up in a wad...just for you should you so answer!   

ready...to go shopping

[redcliffsw]

Varmit, you're right.

And the Flag Code, you're right about that too.  Flags ought to be flown according to the Constitution.

There's no way the Flag Code should supercede the Constitution.  The State flag ought to fly above the
U. S. Flag on State property and County Courthouses.

[readyaimduck]

and what about a church?
(If there is no State flag. )

[redcliffsw]

The local church operates under its own authority, at least a real church would not have an HQ beyond itself.

That being said, I'm thinking that a church ought to be free of the U S flag and the so-called Christian flag.
Don't see any reason for such flags except keep in mind that the U S flag is used to honor U. S. veterans.



 

[readyaimduck]

at least a real church would not have an HQ beyond itself.

You might want to go to some other churches.  There IS an HQ (well of course they won't call it that)  that is dictating what all of their churches should and should not do in their service as well as their tithes. 

It is called Organized Religion. That is why I really don't like what goes on in the big churches, and it seems to be squeezing the other smaller home town churches  that depend financially on the District Supervison, as they are unable to make it on their own. 

I in my mind don't need a structure that depends on someone else telling me what to preach, sing and pray to.  In that light, I would agree that if the members, not the HQ, so request that the US Flag fly in the church, then so be it.   Therein lies the crux:  Worship as we please, as song as it agrees with those with the purstrings.

Now, that being said, perhaps I have derailed this 'flag in the church' to a religious topic....I am sorry.
I will stand by this:  no Christian, Methodist, Presby, Mormon, etc shall fly their flag inside of their or any church. 
The emblem is outside (or a mark if you will )of the church.  We all know you are inside a box of your Religion.  I need to see your alliance to your God/Maker/Higher Power/Allah, and if you are glad to be in this country, The US Flag. 
Otherwise, .....need to finish this thought.....
(edit)  The Higher Power/God, etc was in the congregation LOOooooooooooooooong before the Constitution.
ready

[redcliffsw]

So why the U. S. flag in a church (or another place)?  Are many of us seeing a 'nation' instead of recognizing the sovereign states. 
The nation is the centralization of government. 

How about going by the Constitution?  Yet we're nationalists by supporting such things as flag codes, Obamacare,
a huge assortment of Federal entitlements and programs, etc. 

Nationalists and Patriots are not the same.