Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod Reacts to Birth Control Mandate

Warph · February 19, 2012, 04:22:43 PM

Kathrine Sebelius (KS biggest baby killer) head of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services enacted a rule in January 2012 under the "Affordable Care Act" requiring employers to provide access to health insurance that covers most forms of birth control, even those that can cause the death of an unborn child. The rule, or mandate, exempts churches but applies to other religious employers. On Feb. 10, President Obama announced an "accommodation" for religious employers, saying they would not have to cover birth control, but that insurance companies would provide free birth control, including "morning after" pills.

The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod (LCMS) objects to the use of drugs and procedures that are used to take the lives of unborn children, who are persons in the sight of God from the time of conception.

I don't know how many LCMS members we have on this forum (as I am one of them). All faiths should be aware of the following from LCMS President Rev. Dr. Matthew C. Harrison:

LCMS President comments on birth control mandate

Rev. Dr. Harrison Speaks Before U.S. House Committee

Rev. Dr.Harrison answers U.S. House Committee questions

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Warph · February 19, 2012, 10:59:47 PM

"We fought for a free conscience in this country, and we won't give it up without a fight. To paraphrase Martin Luther, the heart and conscience has room only for God, not for God and the federal government. The bed is too narrow, the blanket is too short. We must obey God rather than men, and we will. Please get the federal government, Mr. Chairman, out of our consciences. Thank you."

Very powerful words. Too bad this will probably not stir the conscience of those who want to do this. The real problem here is that the federal government has overstepped it bounds with the imposition of national healthcare. Nowhere in the constitution can you find a right to health care. This healthcare law is the springboard to more and more control and implementation of things those in control want.

But...The cry has gone out. Churches that don't normally work together in supporting their religious libery rights now have a kernel of leaders to rally 'round. This is the value: the Gospel was proclaimed therefore letting loose the power of the Holy Spirit on all who heard it. The Word of God and the Holy Spirit have the power to change the hearts of men. The apparently crusty, unchangeable congresspersons all spent their youths in church and Sunday school. You cannot see the anima, it blows where it will. You cannot see it coming nor going, but it gives life to all living things.

This is a battle for hearts, not minds. If Rev. Harrison had based his message on natural law and logic, where would the power of the Gospel be in that?

The Gospel of Jesus Christ has defeated many empires... hopefully, this will be a piece of cake.

...Warph

Diane Amberg · February 20, 2012, 12:20:49 PM

Just because women have something available doesn't mean they have to use it, regardless of who pays.
This should ,IMHO, be between a female and her doctor, and with married couples, each other. period! All others should butt out. The Gov't. and the church, in this modern age, should have nothing to do with this. Personal female freedom and liberty, not mandates please,.

Warph · February 20, 2012, 01:47:43 PM

Quote from: Diane Amberg on February 20, 2012, 12:20:49 PM
Just because women have something available doesn't mean they have to use it, regardless of who pays.
This should ,IMHO, be between a female and her doctor, and with married couples, each other. period! All others should butt out. The Gov't. and the church, in this modern age, should have nothing to do with this. Personal female freedom and liberty, not mandates please,.

So... IYHO you are pro-chice? Do you know that as of today, more than twenty-seven years since the legalization of abortion, over 30 million legal abortions have taken place in the United States. To me, and millions like me, this is an issue which is more than a simple question of women controlling their own lives and bodies. It is a matter of life and death for an innocent human being!

Teresa · February 21, 2012, 11:01:12 PM

I'm with Diane on this one..

Diane Amberg · February 22, 2012, 08:58:23 AM

The title of this thread is birth control, not abortion.
There are those now who would take away all forms of birth control. If that happens, I predict abortions, legal or otherwise will increase.
I am pro choice, but that means being able to say no, also. I don't remotely believe in willynilly abortion, but then it takes two to create a baby!
I'm against premarital sex too, and we all know how successful that is. If a young girl is too immature to say no, then the male must say no....oh sure, like that works!
As far as when is a baby "alive", for me that's when the baby can live outside the mother, on it's own. The moment of fertilization doesn't work for me. Babies aren't named or baptized at conception. I've had experience with pregnant women who have been crushed in car accidents, murdered. overdosed etc. and in some cases the baby will be taken from the mother and may survive if developed enough. In other cases, no.
It's personal ! We have so many people now demanding smaller Gov't and more personal freedom, less Gov't funding, yet we hear "they" need to do something." Those puzzle pieces will never match.

Teresa · February 22, 2012, 09:29:05 AM

Well said! And you're right in the bullseye!!

Jo McDonald · February 22, 2012, 11:20:06 AM

I agree - I say and have always said, if men were to become pregnant, their attitude about that subject would
change drastically.
First and foremost they would learn that the zipper should stay up -- not always in the down mode.

Do I believe in abortion??? NO ! Do I believe in someone else making my decisions for me - according to their beliefs?
Absolutely NO!

Wilma · February 22, 2012, 11:34:14 AM

I want to add my voice to Diane's, Teresa's and Jo's. I just don't have the words to express it the way they have.

As for my personal opinion on abortion. I am glad that it is available when it is needed. In my 80 some years, I have not known anyone that has had an abortion. I do know women that have had the baby outside of wedlock and it has worked out fine for them. Abortion was available for them, and they made their choice. That choice should be available for all women.

Birth control should be available to all women and insurance should pay for it as long as insurance is paying for Viagra and other problems that are strictly male.

redcliffsw · February 23, 2012, 07:15:10 AM

I'm not with Diane on this one either.

Jeremiah 1: 4 & 5
Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.