Killing Kennedy

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Mary Ann Moorman was a witness to the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy.  She is best known for her photograph that shows JFK a fraction of a second after being shot in the head.  During the event, Moorman was standing directly across from the grassy knoll, about 15 feet (5 m) from the presidential limousine.  Her photograph was taken approximately one sixth of a second after the bullet's impact.  The image has caused controversy.  Some claim to have identified as many as four different figures on the grassy knoll.  With the most well known figure being a uniformed police officer named the "badge man."  Others claim to see Gordon Arnold or a man in a construction hard hat.  People also point to the light color observed over the wall (left side), which looks like photo doctoring.

The story of Gordon Arnold is an interesting one.  In 1978, Gordon claimed that before the assassination he was twice approached by a business-suited CIA or Secret Service agent who demanded that he move from behind the picket fence of the Dealey Plaza grassy knoll.  Arnold claimed that he moved just south of the picket fence and filmed the assassination with a movie camera.

During the event, a bullet passed extremely close to his left ear and in response Gordon hit the ground.  He was then approached by an armed officer dressed in a Dallas police uniform.  The man kicked Arnold while on the ground and demanded the movie film. Another man was armed with a rifle and dressed in a Dallas police uniform.  He was wearing yellow lens tinted "shooter's glasses" and stood close by crying, shaking, and waving his rifle around.

The Moorman picture has been digitally enhanced for television documentaries.  In the photo, blood and brain fragments can be seen exploding forward, which contradicts the theory that the shot came from the front.  Moorman's original photograph was never confiscated by the FBI and in 2008 she sold it on ebay for $175,000.  On the contrary, a second picture taken by Mary Moorman that shows the sixth-floor window of the Texas School Book Depository moments before the assassination was lost.  The picture was confiscated by the FBI and never published.  It probably shows Lee Harvey Oswald or anyone who may have been shooting at the President's car.  Another interesting photograph was taken by Phillip Willis (number 5) seconds before the fatal head shot.  Willis said he took the picture after being startled by a gunshot, possibly the first shot.  In Willis' photograph, the grassy knoll can be seen and some have identified the "black dog man."

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Is this the Shooter that pulled the trigger and killed Kennedy??





Or was it this clown??:




Here it is again zoomed in:





In regards to Mary Moorman, I'm not so sure I agree that she was trying to dispel any conspiracy theories or anything.  I mean take the fact she said the car slowed to an almost stop for example, this being a huge point of debate over the years and it's also something that is denied by those in a position to deny such things and yet here we have Mary confirming it did in fact happen.

We also have confirmation that more than one head shot struck it seems, not forgetting the 3 bullets Mary heard were completely inconsistent with the claims made by the WC and at the same time were fully consistent with many other witnesses.

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Did Oswald Take Any Rifle to the Depository?

by George Michael Evica

The Warren Commission did establish (or seemed to have established) that a folded blanket had once rested on the floor of Ruth and Michael Paine's garage (at least Marina and the Paines thought so, and the police allegedly found such a blanket). The Commission was unable to place a rifle in that blanket except for Marina's testimony about seeing the stock (or the barrel) of a rifle when she peeked -- but then Marina was an incredible witness and admittedly could not recognize a rifle. Mrs. Paine testified she did not "see" the blanket in her crowded garage any earlier than October 7th, 1963. Ruth Paine also testified that the rifle she allegedly saw in Oswald's possession had a sling unlike the one on the CE 139 rifle. Michael Paine tried to help; he testified that on some unspecified date before November 22nd, 1963, he remembered "moving about this package [in his garage] which, let's say, was a rifle, anyway it was a package wrapped in a blanket." But Paine didn't help Marina's credibility much:

"I have read that Marina looked in the end of this [garage] package and saw the butt end of a rifle. Now I didn't remember that it was something easy to look into like that. I thought it was well wrapped up."

The Warren Commission seemed to have discovered an ill-identified "rifle" (which could not be placed in the Oswald's possession during their various moves) in an alleged package/blanket allegedly in the Paine garage ... but not before October 7th, 1963.

The Commission did establish that Lee Harvey Oswald was present at the Paine's residence, Thursday evening, November 21st, but could not place him in the Paine garage. It also could not establish whether he left the Paine residence on Friday morning, November 22nd, with a paper bag, a rifle, or anything in his hands. To suggest that Oswald might have taken a rifle in a paper bag, the Commission took testimony from four witnesses. The Commission's intention was to suggest that Oswald might have (1) stolen the paper-bag materials from the Depository; (2)constructed the paper gun-case at the Paine house on Thursday night; (3) dismantled the rifle (thereby saving himself only a few inches in length but increasing the time necessary to prepare for the assassination when he would be forced to re-assemble the rifle; (4) placed the rifle in his home-made bag; (5)transported it to the Depository, and (6) carried it to the sixth floor of that building. The Commission was unable to establish as fact any one of these six sequential speculations.

Had the Commission been able to establish Oswald's possession of the CE 139 Mannlicher-Carcano through the evening of November 21st, or the fact of that possession any time on the 22nd, its "reconstruction" of possibilities could have been accepted as circumstantial evidence for the transportation of the Mannlicher-Carcano to and into the Depository on November 22nd. In fact, the Commission neither established Oswald's possession of any rifle through November 22nd nor his transportation of any rifle on November 22nd. Its four paper bag/rifle transportation witnesses offered abundant material for the counter argument that Lee Harvey Oswald did not transport the rifle to or into the building, could not have borrowed the paper bag materials, and did not take those materials to the Paine house. Two of those witnesses testified on March 11th, 1964 -- the only two alleged to have seen Oswald with his "bulky" package -- that it was too short for even a disassembled Carcano. The difference in lengths given was significant: the CE 139 rifle (dismantled, according to F.B.I. agent Frazier), 35 inches; Oswald's alleged package, about 28 inches.

The Warren Commission was unable to place any rifle in Oswald's possession and was even unable to argue persuasively that Oswald might have transported a package containing a rifle to (or into) the Depository.


Did Oswald Possess a Rifle Inside the Depository?

Was Lee Harvey Oswald in possession of a rifle or a short or long package inside the Depository on November 22nd, 1963? No testimony was elicited, either by the Commission or by its investigators and staff members, in answer to that question; it was not, it seems, asked. The Commission tried neither to establish how Oswald got any rifle from the Depository's first floor to the sixth floor nor to determine whether it was possible to transport a weapon. The Commission could have asked the Depository's first-floor workers, but it seems to have avoided asking them any questions about Oswald's possible rifle-carrying trip. Why?

The Warren Commission was unable to prove that Lee Harvey Oswald (1) took delivery of a rifle; (2) possessed a rifle; (3) practiced with a rifle; (4) transported a rifle to the Depository; and (5) carried a rifle to the Depository's sixth floor.

And, of course, it was unable to prove that Lee Harvey Oswald ever fired a rifle on November 22nd, 1963.