The Founding Father of ‘Collective Responsibility’...

[redcliffsw]

As Murray Rothbard once wrote, all government power rests ultimately on a series of myths and superstitions about the alleged magnificence of the state and its leaders and henchmen (and of corollary myths about the "evils" of the civil society).
-Thomas DiLorenzo

http://lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo213.html

[Diane Amberg]

 This one sure has the potential for debate from a number of people.I wonder how many are mature enough to do it without personal attacks.
There is no mention in the blog of the people who so strongly objected to our being in Viet Nam that they left the country. Just recently one of our posters suggested blowing Tehran off the map as if that would settle things.  Then what?
Life isn't just about the Civil War period. We live today and with the choices our Gov't makes now, not in Lincoln's time.
  What is the perfect answer? I sure don't know..Some people expect to cure violence with violence. Some try to use a negotiation route which only works when the Gov't has good control over it's own military and doesn't have righteous rebels on the loose.
The trillions we are spending on all the wars now seems to have very little effect, except making tons of money for certain sectors and companies.
After many years of spending money and lives....for oil in the biggest case, have we really accomplished enough of value to justify the longest war period ever? That's why we dropped the atom bombs when we did. It saved countless American military lives but such a thing can't be done now, we're all so interconnected. There are small groups here and there that do a lot of saber rattling, but usually run out of steam before accomplishing anything. For four years I've been hearing, "just you wait, we're gonna show 'em!''  Uh, OK. And?
But all in all, I'd still rather live here than anywhere else.

[redcliffsw]

Whether there is debate here or not, the differences are clear:

Your northern side agressively sought to save the Union - by force.   

Yet, the other side was defending liberty - a stand for the Constitution and the founding fathers.

That's a good clue to why things have been since 1865 to now.