Short Highlights of Obuma's Jobs Plan

[Diane Amberg]

Of course I take it seriously, but I'm not totally obsessed with it either.
I depend on my own smarts and good looks to get me through the day. I've been down too many roads, bumps and all, to panic over any of this anymore. The American spirit is still alive and well, though a bit bruised right now.We've endured before and will again.
Now go tell that Gov. in Texas not to accept those federal disaster funds and federal firefighters to help his state. I don't recall that being in the Constitution either (poke,poke) Lighten up guys you're gonna give yourselves ulcers. Actually, being in a college town I really could rent out two rooms for extra income if I needed it. I'd get Joe ta pick 'em out for me. Oh ,look, here comes Chris Barker. I understand he's been looking for a couple of you. I'll point him in your direction.

[Patriot]

The American spirit is still alive and well, though a bit bruised right now.We've endured before and will again.

Exactly what the Egyptians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks,  Romans and British were saying.... right before their empires collapsed. 

Anybody want some ice for that little bruise?

[Patriot]

More to the point, though, how is it a "jobs" initiative to pay people who, well, don't have jobs?  Again, even if you would persuade me that extending unemployment benefits is the right move, how would you persuade me that it is a "job creator?" It seems to me that it is just the opposite.... period.  

No thinking person would even try to convince you.  Rational folk would be asking the same thing.

Now I think the ONLY thing on the list that will be helpful for creating jobs is the Employer Tax Cut for hiring new people who have been unemployed for an extended period of time.  Possibly retraining for unemployed who are in older fields and need to get updated skills.  

Possibly, but such a move is only a drop in the bucket, IMO.

A better "jobs plan" would be to roll back much of the regulatory apparatus that is stifling profits and job creation, especially for small and medium-sized businesses.

Agreed, right along with killing onerous business tax rates that give the big guys incentives to keep their work, and money, overseas, and keep the small guys from expanding.

[Anmar]

I'll comment in more depth later, but Warph, you must have missed about half the speech.  There was a section on rolling back government regulations to encourage business. 

Seems to me like he played it pretty safe and chose to  stick with republican-friendly ideas.  It will be the biggest tragedy when the republicans defeat this bill in congress.  I think mostly it will display how stupid most of the tea partiers are when they don't recognize a republican bill when they see one.

I wonder if Obama is proposing this bill for political reasons.  He delayed giving details of how it will be paid for (not like republicans ever paid for anything) thus putting the focus only mostly on the tax cuts and infrastructure improvements.  Later when nobody is paying attention, he'll say that the bill is going to be paid for by either closing corporate tax loopholes, or allowing the bush tax cuts to expire on rich people.  I agree with both methods, but republicans don't.  They'll be in a difficult spot because for the first time in a long time, the Dems have taken initiative in framing the issue.  The conservatives have to choose between pleasing their rich/corporate masters or risk losing the moderate swing voters that keep re-electing them.  Tea party interest is declining, and even at full strength, they are not enough to carry victories for republicans.

[Patriot]

Anmar, you seem to use conservative and Republican as if they are interchangeable. I think that's a mistake.  Most Repubs, while more conservative in nature than their Democrat colleagues, are by no means conservative other than in their common stride to conserve power & position for themselves.  As for Obama's plan, while it seems geared to entrap Republican votes, it's not a jobs producer.  And if you believe that Obama will seriously act on curtailing regulation in the long run, let me know how that works out for ya.  Sounds like more like a plan to create hope for change, and hope with Obama is, IMO, hopeless.

[redcliffsw]

I don't think there is such thing as a conservative Republican. 

Ron Paul is conservative, however he's not really a Republican.  He's not Keynesian whereas all Republicans are Keynesian.

Republicans are in line with Abraham Lincoln, not the founding fathers.  There's a big difference. 

[Anmar]

Last time i checked, conservatives vote republican.  Are you all members of the conservative party?  Do you ever vote democrat?  I can understand the shame you may have in telling people that you're a republican, and I know that you don't want to feel like you continually get tricked into voting republican, but whether you call yourself a conservative, a tea partier, or a purple martian, you vote republican.

[srkruzich]

Last time i checked, conservatives vote republican.  Are you all members of the conservative party?  Do you ever vote democrat?  I can understand the shame you may have in telling people that you're a republican, and I know that you don't want to feel like you continually get tricked into voting republican, but whether you call yourself a conservative, a tea partier, or a purple martian, you vote republican.

You obviously do not know anything about conservatives. 

[Diane Amberg]

Had an interesting conversation recently with a few very young voters trying to figure things out. In all seriousness they said they would never consider Ron Paul because he's too old. Yikes!

[srkruzich]

Had an interesting conversation recently with a few very young voters trying to figure things out. In all seriousness they said they would never consider Ron Paul because he's too old. Yikes!

Thank God the forefathers had the wisdom to require the Min age to be 35.  Personally i think they should have made it 45 Min age.  But then again they could not have foreseen the immaturity of 35 year old people in today's time.