Government Schools and Liberal Indoctrination.

[redcliffsw]

Careful! You're beginning to sound like a Quaker! 

A Quaker?  He sounds like an American.

[redcliffsw]

Pledging Allegiance to the Omnipotent Lincolnian State

Francis Bellamy said that one purpose of the Pledge of Allegiance was to help accomplish his lifelong goal of making his cousin's socialist fantasy a reality in America. He further stated that the "true reason for allegiance to the Flag" was to indoctrinate American school children in the false history of the American founding that was espoused first by Daniel Webster and, later, by Abraham Lincoln.

The public schools must be used to teach blind obedience to the state, the Bellamys reasoned, and the National Education Association was pleased to help them accomplish this goal. They planned a "National Public School Celebration" in 1892, which was the first national propaganda campaign on behalf of the Pledge of Allegiance. It was a massive campaign that involved government schools and politicians throughout the country. The government schools were promoted, along with the Pledge, while private schools, especially parochial ones, were criticized.
-Dr. Thomas DiLorenzo

http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo54.html

[Patriot]

So, for those you who have always talked about Howard as a good place to raise kids and how every parent watched over all the kids, not just their own, it was a socialist activity? And here I just thought it was the right thing to do.

Howard?  Community?  Parents?  The topic was government run schools at large.  Trying to narrow the perspective so as to emotionalize and deflect readers from the broader issues is both disingenuous and intellectually dishonest.  The parents and community values are not at issue.  The NEA driven agenda and government sanctioned processes which adopt Marxist & Fabian principles and philosophies is.  Read Dewey again.  His agenda and theory are at issue, not parents.

[sodbuster]

Well for one thing - you've recited the Pledge of Allegiance (POA) in the government schools haven't you?  The Pledge of Allegiance was invented by a socialist to indoctrinate government school children. 

As a result of governemt education, the Pledge of Allegiance is ingrained in a lot of people.  Many do not stop to even think about not reciting.  Yet greater Americans never recited the socialist Pledge of Allegiance.

Red yes I have in school. During grade school and Jr. High in Kansas and Missouri. Never in High School in California or Alaska. Never since.


Here is what the Pledge meant to me in my grade school mind. Twinkle, Twinkle litttle star.... Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers...

The pledge was inconsiquential(sp? sorry I went to public school) then and now to me. The only one giving it any meaning is you and I know you are not a socialist.

David

[Diane Amberg]

Ah yes, Fabian...loved his hair and music. angel:

[Patriot]

Ah yes, Fabian...loved his hair and music. angel:

Mock if you must Ms Independent Progressive.  For those readers who prefer fact to foolishness, truth to tomfoolery, and intelligence to idiocy, the Fabian Society's objective, since its founding in 1883 has been a gradual shift of western political policies to socialism.  It's alive and well to this very day.  And it is succeeding.  In Western Europe and in North America... Diane Amberg, in my opinion, is living evidence.

Making a mockery of things as serious as manipulation of societal and political evolution toward socialism is not only ignorant, it's dangerous to our posterity.  My kids and grandkids (and yours, for that mater) are important to me.  I wish for them all that our founders envisioned. The free republic established in our Constitution, with all its limits on government, represents their best hope of that.
From the Encyclopædia Britannica:

Fabian Society, socialist society founded in 1883–84 in London, having as its goal the establishment of a democratic socialist state in Great Britain. The Fabians put their faith in evolutionary socialism rather than in revolution.

The name of the society is derived from the Roman general Fabius Cunctator, whose patient and elusive tactics in avoiding pitched battles secured his ultimate victory over stronger forces. Its founding is attributed to Thomas Davidson, a Scottish philosopher, and its early members included George Bernard Shaw, Sidney Webb, Annie Besant, Edward Pease, and Graham Wallas...


Here is a bit of what the "independent" left of center Fabian Society says about itself:

About the Fabian Society

Who we are

The Fabian Society has played a central role for more than a century in the development of political ideas and public policy on the left of centre. Analysing the key challenges facing the UK and the rest of the industrialised world in a Neil Kinnock interviewed by Michael White changing society and global economy, the society's programme aims to explore the political ideas and the policy reforms which will define progressive politics in the new century.

The society is unique among think-tanks in being a democratically-constituted membership organisation. It is affiliated to the Labour Party but is editorially and organisationally independent. Through its publications, seminars and conferences, the society provides an arena for open-minded public debate.


Here is a link to the Fabian Society website:  http://www.fabians.org.uk/

[sodbuster]

Careful! You're beginning to sound like a Quaker!  

There were Quakers in my EK family. I can't check with my Mom, but as I remember the story they were expelled or quit or both. I have a special spot in my heart for Quakers. I have Pacifist leanings that I think came from my Quaker roots.

David

That reminds me of a family joke about Friends University at Coffeyville Kansas. Some of you will have heard that before and know what I mean.

[Catwoman]

LOLOLOLOLOL 

[Ross]

David

That reminds me of a family joke about Friends University at Coffeyville Kansas. Some of you will have heard that before and know what I mean.

And you David had the audacity to call me vulgar for using the word ass, and you talked about setting an example for the children that mignt read the forum. And then you pull this sophmoric stunt. Terrible, just terrible.

[srkruzich]

Come on. Part of being an adult is to use appropriate language.  Now your just getting downright vulgar.  Obviously good raising didn't take with you david as it is not acceptable to use language like this in public much less mixed company.