Elk Konnected Hand out at County Commissioners meeting on 4/25

[upoladeb]

does anyone know , since the date on the public notices for the revitalization program is wrong will the date be extended?.It is suppose to be posted for 2 weeks.

[Patriot]

does anyone know , since the date on the public notices for the revitalization program is wrong will the date be extended?.It is suppose to be posted for 2 weeks.

There must be 2 published notices of the public hearing.  That mess the paper should not qualify as a proper legal notice.  My contact in Topeka suggested that the notice be considered invalid and another, proper first notice be published.

[Ross]

I'd like to suggest they put the proposed "Neighborhood Revitalization Program" that provides WELFARE, property tax kickbacks called rebates for a few chosen people on hold until after the first of the year. Yea, put it on hold! Unless that is the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners are afraid they won't have the controlling votes to get it passed. Besides, the Great State of Kansas strongly recommends not using this program in rural areas.  Are those highly respected and highly educate people that designed the program to be ignored because they are stupid or something?

And I would suggest they consider a tax break for all property owners, how about that?

The state raised the value of our properties, effectively giving us and the county government and school district a tax increase. The school district apparently recognized this action and reduced it's tax mill levy. This effectively leaves our property tax at the same level without increasing the amount of money we have to pay the school district.

Have the Konnected Kounty Kommisssioners considered doing the same thing?
Or is our property tax dollar amount going to increase?

If the County Government would follow suit and do the same thing the school district did, then our mill levy would decrease and everyone would benefit not just a few.

And from the talk of the Konnected Followers about someone (I'd bet they know who that someone is) wanting to move to Elk County but only if they get a tax kick back, rebate or welfare as I call it, they would get the same break as the rest of us and would then not have to hold Elk County hostage of sorts. If this would not serve that persons purpose, who needs that one person?

A lower mill levy for Elk County would also look much better to anyone else that might consider moving here, right?

[daisy]

Pretty sure that there is more than one school district in the county.  West Elk lowered their mill levy, but what about Elk Valley?

[Patriot]

Pretty sure that there is more than one school district in the county.  West Elk lowered their mill levy, but what about Elk Valley?

If I'm not mistaken, they raised the levy in that district... so those taxpayers are gonna take (another) a hit.  And don't be fooled... it's NOT 'all about the kids'.  The question is, when are taxpayers going to say enough is enough?  Or are they just going to sit idle until the big government spenders drain the taxpayer's bank account.  Washington & Topeka aren't the only havens for big spenders.  Having been a bureaucrat, I assure you the bureaucrat often sees no limit to the money pit.

[Ross]

Pretty sure that there is more than one school district in the county.  West Elk lowered their mill levy, but what about Elk Valley?

The towns could do the same thing I suppose, and wouldn't it be nice if all taxing entities follow suit?

But, I believe the larger percentage of property tax is County property tax. I just don't happen to have the figures handy right now.

But the point was, will the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners do it?

Will the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners continue down the path of County WELFARE for a few using a [program that the Great State of Kansas strongly recommends not using in rural areas?

 Are those highly respected and highly educate people that designed the program to be ignored because they are stupid or something?

I hope not!
I think our county would appear better to more people that might be looking to move here, if that is truely what this is all about.

[Ross]

I have been very busy this week and haven't taken tme to read the paper.
I did just read about the Communities and Counties Konnected Konversation in the newspaper, which amounted to nothing more than just a mention of the meeting.

It said that some 50 residents attended, but gave no details of any accomplishments at the meeting.

I think that is because there were no accomplishments, none, zip!

Yet another failure, in my opinion.

That is why, I refered to it in a previous post as a training meeting for new people wanting to start their own NGO.
And the paper says Public Squares Communities, INC is set to do it again in Emporia.
How many times will they keep doing nothing.

They said in the paper, When the individual broke up into their individual groups.
Say what?

I and five people walked in to the meeting and simply set down, all at the same table and there was no breaking up into groups that I saw?

What I did see, was some Konnected facilitators move to tables that didn't have a faciilitator, nothing more, IMHO.
Except no Konnected Facilitator sat at the table iI was sitting at because all the seats were full and no one was moving.

There were probably 15 or 20 people that were involved in putting the meeting on, from what I observed.
So that would leave only 30 to 35 that were not involved in running the meeting.

I do know there were two men from Sedan and one man from Butler County, there was no real representation of any county that aamounted to anything. Even for Elk County there was less then 1% representation which is nothing and way, way less for the other counties. I don't know for sure but I don't believe the fourth county was represented at all. But ya gotta make it sound good in the newspaper propaganda don;t you?  

Some of those people involved were sitting at each of the nine tables as facilitators, IMHO!

As I said, the only person that said anything of sense was Konnected Kounty Kommissioner Liebau's aunt, when she said, "It is the rugged Individualism that keeps Elk County going!"

Let's give that lady a round of applause, what a great statement!

CIA Director Gen. Petraeus resigns, citing extra-marital affair! another highly respected individual bites the dust!
For those that believe in Highly Respected!

[Patriot]

It said that some 50 residents attended, but gave no details of any accomplishments at the meeting.

I think that is because there were no accomplishments, none, zip!

Yet another failure, in my opinion.

I'm not so sure, Ross.  We got to see Kommissioner Liebau valiantly & boldly attempt to shut down several people at one table using classic Delphi/Alinsky methods.  Good training & practice for him, I'm sure.  We also learned from Liebau that youth create jobs.  I never knew that.  I thought it was employers, business owners & market needs that created jobs.  So I learned something new.

And, the report that's created out of this Konversation will surely be enough for the presenters to justify their share of the enormous, multimillion dollar, taxpayer funded HUD grant that's funding this 'movement'.

But you're right about one thing... turnout was pathetic and hardly representative of the masses.

[Ross]

I stand corrected, Patriot!

After all I wasn't sitting at your table.

[redcliffsw]

It's sounding to me like you all have a socialist over there on the Grenola side of the County.

If so, that's not good.