Elk Konnected Hand out at County Commissioners meeting on 4/25

[Ross]

The discussion to be convened by Flint Hills Regional Council and Elk Konnected, LLC but really is it?

Which is it Flint Hills Frontier or Flint Hills Regional Council that will be here?

How many Non-Governmental Organizations does it take to screw in a light bulb?

They claim to have many organizations throughout the Flint Hills. These organizations, which they are calling the Consortium, have also pledged their own commitment toward the effort, through in-kind services, facilities, and dollars.  That's what they said. How interesting, who's money?

How much are the volunteers being paid to run this meeting?
We have heard of paid volunteers, jus google it.
You can't seriously believe they are working for free?

Even the President and Executive Officer of Kommen for the Cure a non-profit organization receives over $500,000 a year. I wonder what kind of money these people putting on this conversation get?
I don't believe it is any where in this category. The average salary at Kommne from doing a search comes to $30,000.
Again, don't think the average salary for these people will be that high, but who knows?

You don't think there are salaries & per diem, why?
Would you leave home and travel and spend time away from your family for free?
Would you pay for your own gasoline and meals, while working for someone else?

I wonder what the pay for the President of Public Squares Communities, INC might amount to?
Do you think that's a volunteer job?

Back to these people that Elk Konnected, LLC is bringing to town with their large Consortium of other NGO's wanting us to fall in with them. Actually I think they want to engage us like Elk konnected, LLC wanted of us.
Which translates to me, to mean follow our lead, do what we want and you are okay.

Why do you suppose that the people not included in the in-crowd of Elk Konnected, LLC are called Followers ?

And now, I think our Konnected Kounty Kommissioners are following this other organization and their consortium of lots of Non Governmental Organizations!

So does this mean Elk Konnected, LLC an NGO is joining the Consortium, which would in my opinion make them Followers instead of Leaders, what do you think?

If you join the Boy Scouts, you follow the Boy Scout Rules or you are out, right?
So, You follow!

So, doesn't that really make the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners FOLLOWERS instead of leaders?

You don;t see Elk Konnected, LLC or any of their Followers answering questions or disputing anything said recently on this thread do you?
And IMHO we know they are all reading this thread !

Doesn't our County Government need responsible LEADERS ?

WOW !
Here are a couple of citizens without displaced loyalties, what do you think of this idea?

Write-in Mr. Wunderlich

And vote for Mr. Hebb

[redcliffsw]

Ross, you all are up against the socialists whether they're Elk Countians or not.

You can call 'em Bolshevik's and I'll understand.

Years ago, who'd ever thought such a thing would be happening in Elk County,
let alone a 'public' meeting set for Oct. 30th in Grenola to be lead and promoted by the Bolshevik's?

It's no wonder that the Bolshevik's don't like you, your thread or the Americans who stand true to
the founding principles.

[Ross]

Ross, you all are up against the socialists whether they're Elk Countians or not.

You can call 'em Bolshevik's and I'll understand.

Years ago, who'd ever thought such a thing would be happening in Elk County,
let alone a 'public' meeting set for Oct. 30th in Grenola to be lead and promoted by the Bolshevik's?

It's no wonder that the Bolshevik's don't like you, your thread or the Americans who stand true to
the founding principles.

You old pot stirrer you.
But you do remember the Communists said, they would defeat the US of A from within? Agenda 21 !

Here is a good read, http://www.votemicky.org/issues.htm

Well all these NGO's trying to control the population all across our great country sure sounds just like what them Communists were talking about.

You know people that don't want to work with in the boundaries of our government, but want to work against it!

The county government is already involved with RC&D and SCKEED and if they can't provide any thing good for Elk County how can all those NGO's that run around begging for money provide anything more then lip service?

I find it extremely bad when that includes elected officials such as our Konnected Kounty Kommissioners and their NGO.

I sure hope Nov. 6th brings great changes to that mess in our local government.
I believe Elk County residents would want to keep Elk County free of such invasions, such as the representatives of all those other NGO's, like Elk Konnected, LLC and Public Squares Communities, INC ?

If not wait for the invasion of many, many more NGO's. I wonder how man there are over in Montgomery County, to may for me to research I'm sure.

Remember we have a couple of men that don't have misplaced loyalties that would focus on the job of County Commissioner? Also I don't believe they wear so many hats that they can't keep them straight. Those words I learned from Konnected Kounty Kommissioner Hendricks at one of her speeches. And now she has yet another hat, President of an NGO, Public Squares Communities, INC of somewhere here in Kansas, but not of Elk County,

Any how, try to remember these two men on November 6th for the good of Elk County,

Write-in
M I c k e y W u n d e r l I c h [move]
http://www.votemicky.org/issues.htm
http://www.votemicky.org/issues.htm

Human beings are simply more willing to believe falsehoods that confirm their own view, so instead some in the public increasingly takes issue with those who deliver the facts. To see just how easy it is to be fooled, one need only visit the controlled confines of the university laboratory.

Do they operate only to propagandize the many to the benefit of the few?

Displaced loyalties ? I think so, what do you think?

Allowing Elk Konnected, LLC to remain out of control and shrouded in secrecy clearly allows for abuse with in Elk County Government and the continued begging (stealing) our tax dollars. I'd like to see some transparency from our Konnected Kounty Kommissioners and an audit of their organization's books and a list of County Taxpayer moneys given to Elk Konnected, LLC, by the approval of the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners and their organization? I'd like to see some proof that Elk Konnected, LLC is a community organizer! Seven years and nothing, so far, concerning community improvements, why?
Is it because of poor leadership?
Or is it all just a big cover up for something cooking behind closed doors?
Transparency isn't going to ever happen in my opinion!

So let's get out there and vote for some positive Change, Okay?

Let's change things, let's take our County Government back.

Write-in Mr. Wunderlich

And vote for Mr. Hebb

[move]A Great Improvement, Great POSITIVE change For Elk County
Actually an Amazing Improvement For Elk County

As Larry the Cable Guy own catchphrase says "Git-R-Done!"

[Ross]

I plagiarized  this from Micky Wunderlich's web page at http://www.votemicky.org/why.htm
Please visit his web site, you might learn something, it is very informative.
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Regarding our 'Wind Farm Windfall", the incumbent in our district gave an interview to an area newspaper...


"If the three of us on the county commission can't operate this county on an extra $990,000 per year maybe the people ought to elect some new commissioners," Liebau said with a laugh.
(Story by Allen Smith, Independence Reporter, Sunday Edition, Living Section November 6, 2011)

I agree 100%.  But it isn't a laughing matter.
It's time for a change, and I'm asking for your write in in vote.

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An excellent reason for change, IMHO!

I read that article and thought the reporter wan't impressed and made a point of that laugh!

[flintauqua]

The county government is already involved with RC&D and SCKEED and if they can't provide any thing good for Elk County how can all those NGO's that run around begging for money provide anything more then lip service?

USDA RC&D and/or SCKEDD have assisted Elk County, and cities and other entities in the county with many major projects through the years, including:  Elk Co. RWD #2; the paving of the road to and the IRB aspect of the expansion of lodging at Flint Oak; the inclusion of Grenola, Moline and eventually Longton in PWWSD 20; sewer improvements in Moline; the rebuilding of Zimmerman/Countryside funeral home; etc.

"Can't provide any thing good"?  I guess Elk County residents would be better off without the ammenites mentioned above.

[Ross]

USDA RC&D and/or SCKEDD have assisted Elk County, and cities and other entities in the county with many major projects through the years, including:  Elk Co. RWD #2; the paving of the road to and the IRB aspect of the expansion of lodging at Flint Oak; the inclusion of Grenola, Moline and eventually Longton in PWWSD 20; sewer improvements in Moline; the rebuilding of Zimmerman/Countryside funeral home; etc.

How are those NGO responsible for what our county government has done?
What did they do?
Or is this just more lip service?
Some real facts, please!

the rebuilding of Zimmerman/Countryside funeral home

What , didn't they have insurance like. I did when my barn burned?
I'm rebuilding and it is because of insurance, not some NGO.
So I guess in some circumstances the saying, "You didn't build that" holds true!

"Can't provide any thing good"?  I guess Elk County residents would be better off without the ammenites mentioned above.

No one has mentioned anything about these ammenties! So what are you suggesting?
Are you suggesting that our County Government is not capable of functioning without NGO's.
How much has it cost the county financially to associate with those NGO's? They don't work for free! There is membership dues or something, right?
Some facts please!

Doesn't what you are saying, insinuate that our county government with Konnected Kounty Kommissioners can not do the job?
Doesn't what you are saying, insinuate thatThat they can not operate with out NGO's?

With all those NGO's getting involved are we attempting to outsource our County Government to  NGO's other county.

If so you should be all for new County Commissioners in my opinion.

[redcliffsw]

USDA RC&D and/or SCKEDD have assisted Elk County, and cities and other entities in the county with many major projects through the years, including:  Elk Co. RWD #2; the paving of the road to and the IRB aspect of the expansion of lodging at Flint Oak; the inclusion of Grenola, Moline and eventually Longton in PWWSD 20; sewer improvements in Moline; the rebuilding of Zimmerman/Countryside funeral home; etc.

"Can't provide any thing good"?  I guess Elk County residents would be better off without the ammenites mentioned above.

Flint, government provisions are no way to live no matter how good they are.
Why would you even consider such a way? 

Are you going the to meeting at Grenola to provide your support to your fellow
Bolsheviks?

[flintauqua]

Ross,

I'm not insinuating anything.  I know how much you like to put your words in other peoples mouths, but stop putting them in mine!  

I am very capable of stating the facts on what assistance has been provided by SCKEDD, USDA RC&D and USDA RD.  And in the past I have used this Forum to present to you, and anyone else interested, facts on many different subjects.  But you don't accept my facts.  You usually just dismiss them outright when they don't fit your preconceived opinion about a subject.  

Why don't you go to the courthouse and ask simple direct questions without any antagonistic, prejudicial, and/or inflammatory verbiage attached to them.  You might actually come away with some answers.

Red,

Are you a Son of the John Birch Society?  Are you paying a penance for not submitting your annual dues in a timely manner?  

Apparently 99.99% of the United States population are Bolshevicks, since anyone to the left of you gets described that way by you and the 2999 other Americans that share your beliefs.  

I will not be able to attend the meeting in Grenola, but my two cents will be added to the discussion in other ways.  

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To everyone,

The meeting in Grenola is open to all, and there are ample other ways to make sure your voice is heard.  I urge everyone, including you Red, to take advantage of this open and honest dialoge.  The only people who will not be heard from and have their opinions considered are those that allow their closed and/or narrow minded preconcieved notions to prevent them from participating in this process.  

Like I mentioned, you can take advantage of the meeting in Grenola, or you can submit your ideas, questions, points of view, etc. via the internet, mail or even phone.  

[Ross]

Ross,

I'm not insinuating anything.  I know how much you like to put your words in other peoples mouths, but stop putting them in mine!  

I am very capable of stating the facts on what assistance has been provided by SCKEDD, USDA RC&D and USDA RD.  And in the past I have used this Forum to present to you, and anyone else interested, facts on many different subjects.  But you don't accept my facts.  You usually just dismiss them outright when they don't fit your preconceived opinion about a subject.  

It sure read like you were insinuating something, thanks for setting me straight.
I did not read a single fact about how those organizations helped in any way!
How did they help?
What did they do?
Did they acquire grants for Elk County?
It they did why do we need employees to do the same thing?
Facts please?
Or is Elk Konnected, LLC followers unable to provide true facts?

Why don't you go to the courthouse and ask simple direct questions without any antagonistic, prejudicial, and/or inflammatory verbiage attached to them.  You might actually come away with some answers.

Because I have the attention of the Elk Konnected, LLC, controlling County Commissioner votes right here via the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners .
Why go else where? They can give thought to what they have to say and put it in writing. right here for everyone on this forum. Or is it they are afraid to put it in writing?

I do believe that any question would be considered to be or have antagonistic, prejudicial, and/or inflammatory verbiage attached to them concerning Elk Konnected, LLCand the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners and their NCO Konnections!                           So that would be virtually impossible to do, thank you.

Red,

Are you a Son of the John Birch Society?  Are you paying a penance for not submitting your annual dues in a timely manner?  

Apparently 99.99% of the United States population are Bolshevicks, since anyone to the left of you gets described that way by you and the 2999 other Americans that share your beliefs.  

I will not be able to attend the meeting in Grenola, but my two cents will be added to the discussion in other ways.

Is that a shot at being ugly. Now this is Ross talking not Red, Okay!
First let me state I am not a member of any group or NGO, no do I support any such groups and have no intention of becoming a member of any such groups. I am distinctly an individual!
And my opinions are my own. Period.

The remark you make John Birch Society doesn't really sound all that bad, IMHO! Look what wikipedia says about it.
The John Birch Society is an American political advocacy group that supports anti-communism, limited government, a constitutional republic and personal freedom.
How is being anti-communist bad?
How is wanting personal freedom bad?
How is being for limited government bad?
I'd like to add how is being anti-NGO involvement in County Government Bad?
I'd sure like to know your opinion on the one I added!
Let me repeat that, "How is being ant- NGO involvement in County Government Bad?
Let me even refrase that, Are you for NGO involvement in County Government and being on the County Commissioners Board?      Please let's have an honest answer to this particular question? 

What is the real purpose of an NGO?
Power and control through a group of people isn't it?

To everyone,

The meeting in Grenola is open to all, and there are ample other ways to make sure your voice is heard.  I urge everyone, including you Red, to take advantage of this open and honest dialoge.  The only people who will not be heard from and have their opinions considered are those that allow their closed and/or narrow minded preconcieved notions to prevent them from participating in this process.  

Like I mentioned, you can take advantage of the meeting in Grenola, or you can submit your ideas, questions, points of view, etc. via the internet, mail or even phone.  

You have already prejudiced the meeting by these statements, IMHO!
It's like saying, if you don't agree with Elk Konnected, LLC and all the other NGO's you are wrong to voice your opinion, and you are narrow minded and your opinion will not be tolerated. Good move!

And now you are saying ust the internet to submit ideas, really! WillElk Konnected, LLC and the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners be paying attention to the internet?

Will Elk Konnected, LLC and the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners respond to the internet inputs and questions?

So far, as of today, they have failed terribly on the internet, haven't they?

Will anyone with a different slant on things be escorted out by the sheriff's department?

Who will be paying for the Sheriff's Department to attend the meeting as their special body guards?
Or will the Sheriff's Department be going about business as usual and be on call for them like they are for all the rest of the citizens of Elk County?

You sure bring to light a whole host of other questions?
Thanks for your input.

[flintauqua]

It sure read like you were insinuating something, thanks for setting me straight.
I did not read a single fact about how those organizations helped in any way!
How did they help?
What did they do?
Did they acquire grants for Elk County?
It they did why do we need employees to do the same thing?
Facts please?
Or is Elk Konnected, LLC followers unable to provide true facts?

Because I have the attention of the Elk Konnected, LLC, controlling County Commissioner votes right here via the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners .
Why go else where? They can give thought to what they have to say and put it in writing. right here for everyone on this forum. Or is it they are afraid to put it in writing?

I do believe that any question would be considered to be or have antagonistic, prejudicial, and/or inflammatory verbiage attached to them concerning Elk Konnected, LLCand the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners and their NCO Konnections!                          So that would be virtually impossible to do, thank you.


Is that a shot at being ugly. Now this is Ross talking not Red, Okay!
First let me state I am not a member of any group or NGO, no do I support any such groups and have no intention of becoming a member of any such groups. I am distinctly an individual!
And my opinions are my own. Period.

The remark you make John Birch Society doesn't really sound all that bad, IMHO! Look what wikipedia says about it.
The John Birch Society is an American political advocacy group that supports anti-communism, limited government, a constitutional republic and personal freedom.
How is being anti-communist bad?
How is wanting personal freedom bad?
How is being for limited government bad?
I'd like to add how is being anti-NGO involvement in County Government Bad?
I'd sure like to know your opinion on the one I added!
Let me repeat that, "How is being ant- NGO involvement in County Government Bad?
Let me even refrase that, Are you for NGO involvement in County Government and being on the County Commissioners Board?     Please let's have an honest answer to this particular question?  

What is the real purpose of an NGO?
Power and control through a group of people isn't it?


You have already prejudiced the meeting by these statements, IMHO!
It's like saying, if you don't agree with Elk Konnected, LLC and all the other NGO's you are wrong to voice your opinion, and you are narrow minded and your opinion will not be tolerated. Good move!

And now you are saying ust the internet to submit ideas, really! WillElk Konnected, LLC and the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners be paying attention to the internet?

Will Elk Konnected, LLC and the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners respond to the internet inputs and questions?

So far, as of today, they have failed terribly on the internet, haven't they?

Will anyone with a different slant on things be escorted out by the sheriff's department?

Who will be paying for the Sheriff's Department to attend the meeting as their special body guards?
Or will the Sheriff's Department be going about business as usual and be on call for them like they are for all the rest of the citizens of Elk County?

You sure bring to light a whole host of other questions?
Thanks for your input.

Ross, the entire post above epitomizes why no one engages you on this Forum.  Good luck getting your answers here, because even if someone were to answer any of your questions, you would ignore anything that doesn't fit what YOUR closed mind has already decided is the answer before you ever ask the question.  

Thanks for reminding me and everyone else why no one engages you here anymore.  Have fun!