Elk Konnected Hand out at County Commissioners meeting on 4/25

[Ross]

PLEASE READ
A guy looked at a friend's Harley and said "I wonder how many people
could have been fed for the money that motorcycle cost."
He replied, "I'm not sure.
It fed a lot of families in Milwaukee , Wisconsin who built it,
it fed the people who make the tires,
it fed the people who made the components that went into it,
it fed the people in the copper mine who mined the copper for the wires,
it fed people in Decatur IL . at Caterpillar who make the trucks that
haul the copper ore.
so I guess I really don't know how many people it fed."
That is the difference between capitalism and welfare mentality.
When you buy something, you put money in people's pockets, and give
them dignity for their skills.
When you give someone something for nothing, you rob them of their
dignity and self-worth.
Capitalism is freely giving your money in exchange for something of value.
Socialism is taking your money against your will and shoving something
down your throat that you never asked for.
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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson

Do some meaningful research and then tell the folks on this forum what Thomas Jefferson's actual relationship was in reference to this quote.

Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle !You couldn't just say politely state that rhe statement was erroneously  attributed to Jefferson?

However, isn't  the statement still true when removing, "Thomas Jefferson" from the statement, as I just
did:
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Are Socialism and Democracy compatible?      This was the point and purpose of the post !

[redcliffsw]

Yes, Socialism and Democracy are compatible.  You see it all the time right here in the uSA.

How do you think the socialists advance their cause?  They vote themselves more money - more stuff. 

In Elk County, you seem to get in their way by opposing their schemes. 

[Ross]

Yes, Socialism and Democracy are compatible.  You see it all the time right here in the uSA.

How do you think the socialists advance their cause?  They vote themselves more money - more stuff. 

In Elk County, you seem to get in their way by opposing their schemes.

Won't Socialism eventually errode Democracy ?

[Ross]

I have done my best to  help you folks here in Elk County but, it's almost time for me to lay down the torch.

I did my studies to put together a legal document called an Opposition Petition to tell the West Elk USD-282 School Board and School Superintendent – No You Can Not use a Resolution to raise our property taxes, you must bring the property tax to the voters. 

I spent many hours driving from town to town and on many county roads knocking on doors soliciting your support by asking for your signatures. I was and still am grateful for each and every signature and I am proud of each and every person that signed the petition.

The bad deal last fall, was they still raised our property taxes?
Remember the scam they perpetrated against us.

After doing the Resolution for 8 mil, the Superintendent wrote a letter that he sent home with each student and posted at various business and on this forum and the newspaper. He stated the board voted to take only 4 mil of the 8 mil. I told you it made no difference what they voted and that they could come back later for the rest. Well, they did violate the law and raised property taxes 6.377 mil.
That was 2.377 mil  more than what they voted to take.
How does it feel to be lied and scammed by your local elected officials ?

I'm sure, you would ask, how could they do that to us !
It's simple folks!

The West Elk USD-282 School Board and/or School Superintendent have no respect for you the taxpayer, you the registered voter or the law.

THEY BLATANTLY VIOLATED KANSAS STATE LAW !
What law ? 
This Law K. S. A. 12-1774
  K. S. A. means Kansas Statutes Annotated

This is how corruption gets it's foot hold in government. Local Government as well as big Gonerment.
They blatantly ignore the law and then who knows how far they will go?
And these are the people you entrust the education of your children too !
How great is that, they allow lies and steal from you and you trust them.

I would not dare say this, if I didn't have a paper trail and documentation to protect
myself from a possible law suit. And as you know a minor amount of the documentation were
printed in the Prairie Star.

I wrote a letter and sent documentation to the Head of the Kansas State Department of Education.
His response, we have no control over local School Boards.
I don't buy it !
If the the number of drop outs were to drastically decline or the number of students failing were to drastically increase, the KSDE would be here in Elk County or have the Local School Board answering to them immediately.

I wrote a letter and sent documentation to the Kansas Attorney General and Governor Brownback.
At the Kansas Attorney General's office I first had to deal with the very most insignificant employees, which is standard operating procedure for most government agencies. Of course I was told things that were not beneficial to my cause. They basically said they would not get involved.

I finally got one of the insignificant to get my message to one of the, I assume many Deputy Attorney General's. I did receive a letter from this person which was basically designed to give me the brush-off in hopes of shutting me up. I did respond to her letter and informed her, I was sending a copy of her letter along with a letter to the Governor. I also sent a copy of my letter to the Governor to her.

I received a letter from the Governor stating that his Constituent Services, "Recommended that my office ask the Attorney General to review your concerns. I am forwarding your letter to the attention of Secretary Crystal Moe for further consideration."

I searched the internet for Secretary Crystal Moe, all I could learn was that she is the Executive Secretary and her phone number at the Capital. So, I gave her a call and hee response was, we can npt enforce every law. To me that is un acceptable. I feel that tax fraud by any governing body by breaking the law and effectively robbing the taxpayer deserves considerable attention by the Attorney General 's Office. Don't you?

I think, I may write one more letter to Governor Brownback.

Like I said, it's almost time for me to lay down the torch.

The reason, I am saying this again is to offer someone, anyone the information to write a legal
Opposition Petition !

Someone should have the information because, all the local governments will likely begin using Resolutions in the newspaper starting in 2017 to avoid asking permission of the voters who would most likely say no..

WHY?

Starting in 2017 Kansas State law limits their ability to raise property taxes no more than the
Consumer Prixe Index (CPI). And if there is a bunch of liberal progrissive socialists in
local offices that won't be near enough money. So, they will be looking at using RESOLUTIONS
to get larger amounts of money. We are talking about County and City and School District Government's.

If anyone is interested in doing Opposition Petitions yearly, to tell these governments no, don't raise our taxes Resolution (Especially if they give phony excuses like the the two West Elk did.) Please feel free to Private Message me and I will provide you all the information I can.

I have not seen the ballot but I know West Elk  USD-282 is on the November ballot, I have heard they are asking for 4 mil. I'll tell you, I will vote against the increase.

WHY?

They lied on both Resolutions, they cheated the law of one Opposition Petition and raised taxes
illegally. Also I, would continue to deny any future tax increases until the School Board called for a State Audit of their books.

WHY?

Because, I feel there must be a serious problem or problems for them to scam and lie so much. And the fact that they do not accept citizen input through an open forum. And because they have avoided advice they paid for with our tax dollars.

The truth hurts, people. But when your elected representatives lie and work against you, that is what you get, hurt.

This post represents my personal feelings and opinions.
And it is perfectly fine with me if you disagree with me!
I prefer you talk with your friends and family and form your own opinions.
That is what this all about, civil responsibility.

I have returned with a modification to add a picture of the letter from Governor Brownback.

[W. Gray]

Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle !You couldn't just say politely state that rhe statement was erroneously  attributed to Jefferson?

However, isn't  the statement still true when removing, "Thomas Jefferson" from the statement, as I just
did:
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Are Socialism and Democracy compatible?      This was the point and purpose of the post !

You made the point of the post as being a quote from Thomas Jefferson to support what you said.

Why didn't you do some research to determine if Jefferson had actually made that statement in the first place?

[Ross]

You made the point of the post as being a quote from Thomas Jefferson to support what you said.

Why didn't you do some research to determine if Jefferson had actually made that statement in the first place?

No sir the point of the post is in the body of the post

You recognized an error and instead of politely pointing it out, you said research it.

I researched it and politely acknowledge the error and removed Thomas Jefferson from the quote in that very post.

What, more do you want with your trolling?

Try to have a nice day !

[W. Gray]

No sir the point of the post is in the body of the post

You recognized an error and instead of politely pointing it out, you said research it.

I researched it and politely acknowledge the error and removed Thomas Jefferson from the quote in that very post.

What, more do you want with your trolling?

Try to have a nice day !

Why wouldn't you do your research beforehand? Especially, when there is a wealth of information on the web refuting the fact that Jefferson did not say what you said he did. Shouldn't you be doing better than that?

A major blunder like that in which you quote a very famous person to support what you are posting and then you do absolutely no research to determine if the quote is true, is just being uninformed, hasty, and sloppy on your part.

I don't see that you changed your original post to eliminate Jefferson's name or provide a disclaimer.

But, if you do eliminate Jefferson and leave just the quote, who will you be showing as the author of the quote?

[Ross]

Why wouldn't you do your research beforehand? Especially, when there is a wealth of information on the web refuting the fact that Jefferson did not say what you said he did. Shouldn't you be doing better than that?

A major blunder like that in which you quote a very famous person to support what you are posting and then you do absolutely no research to determine if the quote is true, is just being uninformed, hasty, and sloppy on your part.

I don't see that you changed your original post to eliminate Jefferson's name or provide a disclaimer.

But, if you do eliminate Jefferson and leave just the quote, who will you be showing as the author of the quote?

Why are you so disturbed over nothing ?

[W. Gray]

Why are you so disturbed over nothing ?

Don't you want to try to improve yourself?

Being sloppy in doing research causes your credibility to continue to suffer.

Being sloppy in that one area of research, means that you are more than likely being just as sloppy, perhaps more so, in other areas of research such as your other posts, your petitions, your everyday interactions, etc.

[Ross]

Don't you want to try to improve yourself?

Being sloppy in doing research causes your credibility to continue to suffer.

Being sloppy in that one area of research, means that you are more than likely being just as sloppy, perhaps more so, in other areas of research such as your other posts, your petitions, your everyday interactions, etc.

And for you being so dissturbed over nothing and stressing so much about nothing shows you need a vacation.
Which would be hralthier for you than all this trolling.

Take a deep breath and release slowly to relax. Advice from Dr. Ross Dog Food, dog gong good.
(wish I owned that company, I'd move it here to my little 60 acres. That would shake up the whole coounty and bribg life to it) LOL

Find something else to do, instead of trying to put me down. You do not posses  that ability.

I never see you posting wnything meaningfiul. Please give that a try!

Bye-bye