Elk Konnected Hand out at County Commissioners meeting on 4/25

[Patriot]

I have always been and will continue to be a moderate conservative, even if the reactionary right wants to call me a liberal.

Continuing to be a shill for the looney left is your prerogative.  You might, however, consider looking up the meaning of the root of conservative.  That is 'conserve'.  Just what is it you are trying to save and preserve with all your fear mongering and 'progressive' forward thinking.  

Come to think of it, and speaking of wordsmithing, you might study the the roots of political progressivism... a term co-opted by socialists early in the 20th century when the public caught on to the socialist agenda.  Disingenuous at best, dishonest at worst, and a threat to most American's liberty in any case.

[Patriot]

I think Margaret Thatcher said (in paraphrase),  The problem with socialism (progressivism/ moderate conservatism/forward-thinkerism) is that socialists eventually run out of other people's money.

[redcliffsw]

I have always been and will continue to be a moderate conservative, even if the reactionary right wants to call me a liberal.

Flintauqua, I can't see you being anything else except a liberal.  That's pretty much what the Republican party is all about and
you seem to fit that quite well.     

[Ross]

Ross, you wouldn't recognize a fact if it hit you upside the head, as has repeatedly been made blatantly obvious by your reponses to and/or total disregard of facts previously presented by me and others on this thread and elsewhere on this Forum.

Actually I would recognize facts posted on this thread. The followers keep jumping from thread to thread in my opinion only to create confussion and to hide their remarks. Afraid to come forward. There have been no facts posted by the  followers on this thread. They simply avoid doing so and using mis-direction with statements such as this. Or would you kindly point out some of those followers facts on this thread for everyone.

Don't be so ambiguous, please be precise. To simply say, "forward thinking, open-minded people that are full of positive energy and tenacity to work towards an unexplained vision is very even extremely ambiguous. Lacking any fact, just words, blowing smoke up our backsides.

And since you posted some more of your gadflyish comments while I was typing . . .

A gadfly is a person who upsets the status quo by posing upsetting or novel questions, or just being an irritant. The term has been used to describe many politicians and social commentators. What an attitude problem you show with the use of such a word.

I am glad, I could accomodate you. I am sorry that you don't believe in peoples right to question their government and those that give the appearance of inproprieties and lack of ethics. I am also sorry that you believe that only the arrogant should have a say in the local government.

However, I feel compelled to remind you that having only the arrogant thinking they rule, does not work and that was proven by the people concerning the District School Bond Issue failure.

You see, I believe each and every voter, taxpayer and citizen should have a say. I also believe each and every one of them is capable of thinking for themselves.

I don't believe they should be mis-lead by an organization that has abused Governments resources, and an organization that has been called on such abuses, or an organization that has failed at numerous endeavors.

I am reminded of an old saying.  "Lead, follow, or get out of the way."

That is another saying used by politicians to intimidate. It shows the intention to lead by ambiguity. It's like saying I can't think of / or show any real fact's, so I'm say with a statement like that, I'll try to make you look bad, well it doen't  It doesn't always work. This time it actually fails.

You see, you are actually following me, I started this thread. You are also following others on this thread that have contributed meaningful open, honest dialog, versus your negative attitude and name calling and unwillingness to provide any facts.

Elk Konnected, LLC was represented on this thread by County Commissioner Hendricks, who has failed to return. And I believe that is because she could not handle and open and honest dialog in an open forum. I believe that she and her organization can only handle a dialog where they can say this is our meeting and you will play by our rules and if you don't the sheriff will be called upon to act in behalf of my organization.

Isn't that thrilling for you as a follower of Elk Konnected and even knowing that the Elk Konnected County Commissioners have been following this thread for nearly a year.

How's that for leading, nearly a year. I never intended to be a leader, but this surely must be a record for a thread on this great forum.

Thank You to the forum owners.

Since you claim to have no followers, then I guess you're not a leader.  And since you've repeatedly chastised people for being followers, then I presume you are not a follower either.  

I never gave it a thought, of being a leader with followers, but since you have forced the issue, and keep pushing the issue please re-read the remarks a few lines above.

But let me clarify if anyone is actually following me, I have always suggested that you think for yourself, and wish to stress that point again, Please do your own thinking, be an independent thinker and be proud of the fact that you can do that. Also always ask lot's of questions, it's the right thing to do. This would be the only peer group pressure a person should succumb to, IMHO, and don't succumb to Elk Konnected, LLC peer group pressure. And please Even question me, and my motives, it's the smart thing to do.

So, I guess that means that you must be someone who needs to get out of the way.

You have definitly got that wrong. That's what all you Elk Konnected followers want isn't it?        You want everyone out of the way especially those that do not bow down to your fictious Konnected Kommunity Kingdom, right?

I have enjoyed our little chat on here and I surely hope it continues.

[Mom70x7]

Flintauqua, I can't see you being anything else except a liberal.  That's pretty much what the Republican party is all about and
you seem to fit that quite well.     

Nope - nada - not right, in my opinion.

Speaking as a liberal - very liberal - Flintauqua is a moderate conservative. With manners.  If we got into an in-depth discussion on issues, one on one, I'm positive we would not agree on all of them. We would, however, agree to disagree without any name calling or bashing.

As far as Republicans, Democrats - the titles don't really matter to mer, other than to identify a group of positions. I vote for people I trust, whose views I like. I usually don't like all of a candidate's views, so I pick the one that will best represent me.

[redcliffsw]

Do you believe that democracy should be used to steal the liberty of other folks?

[Diane Amberg]

 I still don't know what liberty that would be. Do you really want to be allowed to do things that would be disrespectful  or dangerous to other Americans? Can't we all think about others as well as ourselves when we make choices?
 I don't agree with some things that President Obama has done and I wish he had more fire in his belly, but so many of the things you feared haven't happened. Many of the things that wind up on the conservative blogs get passed around and around but they can be proved to be untrue.  
Congress is another animal. That bunch have taken on a life of their own with their own agendas and aren't user friendly at all.
Yes, I think some of the social programs need to be rounded up and reevaluated.
Yes, I think continuing to throw more and more money at schools doesn't produce better educated kids. We proved that right here. Newark Charter gets several thousand dollars less per student annually from the state than the regular public schools do but they are producing kids that are excelling.

[redcliffsw]

I still don't know what liberty that would be.

Can't disagree with you on that Diane.  You don't understand nor can you get ahold of the true historical liberty of Americans
EXCEPT that you'd like for us to have less of that liberty which our forefathers had.  Public school education is not supportive of
liberty and you're over-dosed with that government mandated education.

[Varmit]

Holy crap, been gone months and ain't nothing changed!  What should be done with the money in my opinion...

How about lower property taxes!! There are people in this county that don't live out in the country and seldom travel those roads, and yet their taxes keep going up!  Why?  Ain't nothing in this county changed! 
Repair the roads, novel idea! Been trying to do it for years! How about a raise for the guys actually trying to do just that.  You know the truck drivers, grader operators, heavy equipment operators that are being paid a laughable wage and still have to put up with complaints from the general public?  Not that the public doesn't have a genuine reason to complain.  Espcially when roads all over the county are falling apart and yet all repairs lead to Howard! 

Just my opinion.  And before anyone suggest that if I don't like the way things are run then I should find a different job, keep in mind that I pay taxes in this county as well and have just as much right to express my opinion as anyone else.  I didn't sign a vow of silence when I took this job.

[Patriot]

Holy crap, been gone months and ain't nothing changed!...

Not much has changed with respect to county management in that time either, Varmit.  Welcome back!

Your points are well taken.  Debt reduction, property tax relief, employee compensation realignment and infrastructure repairs.  Seems like a no brainer in a county this small, but apparently some still think a new fire barn/health department building (in Howard, of course), tax rebates for a few 'haves', after school movies, and landscaping at the courthouse are the best answers to our challenges.  Go figure.

No matter where you go, there you are.
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
And just who's driving the bus?