Elk Konnected Hand out at County Commissioners meeting on 4/25

[srkruzich]

And earthquakes come from where?

SHifts in tectonic plates.  LIke we got anything to worry about on earthquakes lol.  When was the last one around here?

They frack alll the time in north GA, TN, NC, SC and alabama when drilling for water. 500 -1500 ' well then frack it.  Hell i've fracked my own well a time or two when I wasn't getting enough GPM.  Drop two sticks of dynamite in, 100' apart blast the bottom one and 2 ms later blast the top one and it fracks the entire 100' opening it up big time. Lots of fractures for the water to pour through.
nowadays some companies do it with high pressure.    As for one of the components they use bentonite, IF you own a cat you use it all the time.  Thats what you put in their litter box.

[Patriot]

... LIke we got anything to worry about on earthquakes lol.  When was the last one around here?

Tuesday, January 01, 2008 at 08:44:16 (UTC) - Coordinated Universal Time
Tuesday, January 01, 2008 at 02:44:16 AM local time at epicenter
Magnitude 2.7
25 km (15 miles) W of Arkansas City, Kansas


Then there is the Humboldt Fault line extending from Oklahoma City NE to Omaha.

http://www.emporia.edu/earthsci/student/johnson1/presentation.html

[Catwoman]

The fault line I'd be worried about is the New Madrid, extending from around Chicago down through Missouri and onwards...When that thing goes off, we will all feel it.

[Ross]

Ross thank you for posting about the meeting on Fraking. I did not know if just anyone could attend as a citizen. I do own property here in Elk county, just not a lot of it, and so I am indeed concerned about this  fragile ecosystem in an area that has fault lines already. Do you think that we need to start another thread about fraking?

I'm not interested in starting a thread on fracking. I figure either people care or they don't. It's either they want easy money or they don't. It's sota like either like you want to be a follower of ghost or you don't. My grandmother use to speak of poltergiest and would say the more people that believed in them the stronger they got and vice-versa.

[srkruzich]

The fault line I'd be worried about is the New Madrid, extending from around Chicago down through Missouri and onwards...When that thing goes off, we will all feel it.

Your right on that one.  We will feel it.  Thats one reason i will not ever live around the Mississippi river again.

[Ross]

Borrowed from http://www.cascity.com/howard/forum/index.php/topic,12141.0/topicseen.html

Anyone know if the county consolidation plan that was introduced in the legislature in February passed? It was supposed to require the governor to appoint a several member commission by July 30, 2011, to come up with a county consolidation plan by January 1, 2013.

105 counties to 23 was one plan bandied about.

several member commission??? Would that be sorta like a steering committee??? Just curious.

Holy cow!!    And just how were they going to manage THAT?  When you can't even get small municipalities to coordinate/cooperate with each other, how are they going to manage to make a decision on which counties to cram together?

Easy, state level legislation, more people with more money, more people with more power, more outstanding citizens of the community, people that are pillars of the community and have impecable something or other. more legislateion. Oh, maybe great big circles of chairs> What do you think?

Why control and regulate and consolidate counties with one centrally located county seat? Something like saving money is what is said. Right? Personally I think it is about control. More and easier control at the state level. It's probably being worked on by people who are staying hidden and don't want you to know who they are?

Sorta like getting small municipalities to coordinate/cooperate with each other and :
Unified Gov't (w/in the county) to save money and become more unified (do away with city gov't, councils­
(cont.) all centrally located-one managing body) (Big Ideas's)
SEE: http://www.cascity.com/howard/forum/index.php/topic,11780.0.html

Some day they may start holding meetings with a facilitator and circles of chairs. Then we could share the million dollars from the wind farm with other counties by having a Unified Gov't with Montgomery, Chautauqua and two or three other counties and maybe we could beknown as section five of Montogomery County. Wouldn't that be great. But people have told me that would never happen.
But you know with the economy the way it is and all the state budget cuts and the idea it would be cheaper to operate the state with fewer counties, who knows?

Unified Gov't (w/in the county) to save money and become more unified (do away with city gov't, councils­
(cont.) all centrally located-one managing body) (Big Ideas's)
SEE: http://www.cascity.com/howard/forum/index.php/topic,11780.0.html

[redcliffsw]

Elk Konnected fits the socialists' agenda.

I call them anti-American because that's what they are.

[Patriot]

For you citizens who are disconnected from the better advertized outlets and independently connected to clear, reasoned thinking, imagine this:

A private company, whose legal owners are unnamed private citizens, finds that it has the ability to attract private investors and has access to significant grant and taxpayer monies. That company pays professional outside consultants to help them develop an agenda, organize their business plan and train their operatives.  

The same company organizes a Steering Committee whose job it is to keep the agenda of the company on track and moving forward.  Those members are interviewed and screened to ensure that they are highly committed to the company and its' agenda.  Those committee members are so devoted to the company, they voluntarily give their time and money to advance the purposes of the company.

...Terry spoke to that group of 16 people a month later. They were interested, but not ready to commit...

...Finally after the 3rd meeting with Terry in March 2007, a steering committee was formed...

...Terry interviewed each steering committee members, who also filled out a "20 Clues Survey" (Community survey). Then each Steering Committee member proceeded to interview four people, each one representing a different sector of the public square. Meanwhile, Terry was interviewing people the Steering Committee had identified or other interviewees had named...
http://www.publicsquarecommunities.com/community/elk/aboutus.php[/i]]http://www.publicsquarecommunities.com/community/elk/aboutus.php  

They work hard to sell their vision and agenda to members of the community at large.  They engage community youth to participate in their programs.  The company pays older youth to help engage younger youth or to work on other company projects.  

The company's Steering Committee is quite effective.  The company and their hired consultants even employ well documented psychological group manipulation tactics developed for the US Department of Defense to 'create' community consensus.

Members of the private company and the company's Steering Committee and devoted supporters also have other jobs and some wear the following hats:

 1.  County Commissioner(s)
 2.  County Economic Development Director
 3.  County Youth Development Coordinator
 4.  Law Enforcement Officer(s)
 5.  School Board member(s)
 6.  Town Council member(s)
 7.  Local media
 8.  Bankers
 9.  Community activity group leaders
 10.  Select Business owners
 11.  Teachers
 12.  Church leaders


Citizens, ask yourself.....

What could the private company accomplish with these connections?  
How well could the private company agenda be established in the larger community?  
What becomes of ordinary citizens who resist the private company's established agenda?
Do ordinary citizens really have an opportunity to influence the private company's agenda?  
Does all the above change the dynamics of representative government in the community?  
Is that change toward or away from constitutional principles?

And what is the company's openly advertised agenda?  

   Establish and enforce property maintenance standards
   Establish a coordinated youth development program
   Create a coordinated clean up of physical image
   Create the infrastructure for community wellness
   Develop a community-wide clearinghouse for publicizing activities and events
http://www.publicsquarecommunities.com/community/elk/goals.php[/i]]http://www.publicsquarecommunities.com/community/elk/goals.php

Could there be more than what is published?

Much of this scenario is in place and operating in the real place we call Elk County, Kansas.

You're connected, citizens.... you decide.

[srkruzich]

Could there be more than what is published?

Much of this scenario is in place and operating in the real place we call Elk County, Kansas.

You're connected, citizens.... you decide.



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Yeah there is.  With those connections, what is there to stop them from establishing business's that disallow competition.  After all with the listed connections, they would have a inside scoop as to who was applying for what, and who was planning on competing. 

Imagine permitting being denied OR being regulated so much that it is cost prohibitive to start up said enterprise, while those that fall under the private LLC will reap benefits of fast tracking through the political system.

[Ross]

Remember the Curly-Q hamburger place in Moline.
The man was doing pretty good, but I understand he was run off.
But any way the Curly-Q is still closed. Competition not welcome I guess.

Who steers the steering committee?

Who are the admitted members who own, and run,
Elk Konnected.

Who is your Puppet Master?

What are your real goals?

How do you plan to meet your goals?