Hunters Running Into Drug Smugglers

frawin · February 19, 2011, 04:34:19 PM

The title to this post was the Title of an article in March 2011 American Hunter Magazine. The jest of the aricle is that Hunters, Hikers, and other members of the public have a greater risk of being harmed by individuals involved in illegal Border Activity and Marijuana Cultivation. To read more on this go to www.gao.gov/new.items/d11144.pdf

It is just not happening on the Borders anymore it is happening on goverment land and parks all over the US.

Varmit · February 21, 2011, 10:26:23 AM

If they want to stop this all they have to do is legalize it. I for one, am certainly in favor of it.

srkruzich · February 21, 2011, 10:42:06 AM

Whats the problem here, hunters are armed, they run into drug smugglers, 2nd amendment is in effect problem solved.

jerry wagner · February 21, 2011, 11:27:32 AM

Quote from: srkruzich on February 21, 2011, 10:42:06 AM
Whats the problem here, hunters are armed, they run into drug smugglers, 2nd amendment is in effect problem solved.

How's that problem solved? People can mete out whatever justice they feel when they meet something they deem criminal? No right to jury trial? Problem would be solved by legalizing it and taxing it.

Diane Amberg · February 22, 2011, 11:11:20 AM

Where do the drug addicts get the money to feed their habit, even if it is sold legally?

srkruzich · February 22, 2011, 01:54:55 PM

Quote from: jerry wagner on February 21, 2011, 11:27:32 AM
How's that problem solved? People can mete out whatever justice they feel when they meet something they deem criminal? No right to jury trial? Problem would be solved by legalizing it and taxing it.

Leave it to jerry to defend the cartel! LOL, gotta tell ya jerry,, if i run up against a drug smuggler you can bet your bottom dollar i'm going to be locked and loaded and the second they point anything my way i'm going to dispatch them.

I don't care if they haven't had their day in court! I'm not going to wait and see if they try to kill me either.

srkruzich · February 22, 2011, 01:57:19 PM

Quote from: Diane Amberg on February 22, 2011, 11:11:20 AM
Where do the drug addicts get the money to feed their habit, even if it is sold legally?

Diane if its leagal, they more than likely won't be able to get the drug unless they make it themselves. THe only reason its so expensive and being sold here is because of the high profit. I think its marked up 1700% IF its legal, then for example pot would go from 200- 300 a ounce to like 5 -10 dollars a oz.

No profit = not worth bothering with for the drug dealers.

jerry wagner · February 22, 2011, 02:03:45 PM

Quote from: srkruzich on February 22, 2011, 01:54:55 PM
Leave it to jerry to defend the cartel! LOL, gotta tell ya jerry,, if i run up against a drug smuggler you can bet your bottom dollar i'm going to be locked and loaded and the second they point anything my way i'm going to dispatch them.

I don't care if they haven't had their day in court! I'm not going to wait and see if they try to kill me either.

fine shoot if threatened but that was not you original statement. And i'm not defending them, merely saying they have some rights no matter how repugnant the individual. Legalizing the trade will solve the problem.

srkruzich · February 22, 2011, 02:09:37 PM

Quote from: jerry wagner on February 22, 2011, 02:03:45 PM
fine shoot if threatened but that was not you original statement. And i'm not defending them, merely saying they have some rights no matter how repugnant the individual. Legalizing the trade will solve the problem.

Actually the smugglers most likely have no rights. Especially the ones around the borders. IF they ain't americans, they have no rights.

Warph · March 19, 2011, 02:03:33 PM

I'm thinking maybe ol' Charlie Sheen and all of the Hollywood stoners deserves a second chance, I mean who did they really hurt besides themselves? Maybe it's time that we as a nation start staying out of people's personal problems and vices. What are we doing spending billions of dollars trying to keep people's private lives in order? And I'm talking about legal age consenting adults here, not kids... we obviously have to take special precautions to protect kids. But what is this Orwellian hang-up of ours of sticking our nose into other grown-up's affairs? What concern is it of ours if some mindless pot-head wants to spend his his life hooked up to a Turkish skull bong? Now, I'm not pro-drug, they obviously cause a lot of damage, but I am pro-logic and I always say, you're never going to stop the human need for release through altered consciousness. The government can take away all the drugs in the world and people will just spin around on their lawn until they fell down and saw
G-D.

It seems to really enrage the vast cheese dog and beer quaffing nation out there when someone decides to waste his own life chasing down chemical euphoria and I'm not sure why. Our displeasure with someone hell-bent on self-ruination through drug use seems really disproportionate to its direct impact on us. And as a matter of fact, I believe we amplify that impact when we attempt to enforce unenforceable laws. It not only costs us billions of dollars, but it puts us in harms way as addicts are driven to crime as a means to an end. Why do we chase druggies down like villagers after Karlov? Let them legally have what they already have and defuse the bomb.

I think the hysteria about drugs is often times baseless. And this comes from me, a man who has never done cocaine in his life. And you know, the war on drugs is more often than not, fruitless and patently hypocritical. Be honest with yourselves now... what drugs are the most dangerous to the most Americans? Its a no brainer: cigarettes and alcohol. Those are the statistical champions by hundreds of thousands of deaths. And wouldn't you rather shoot a game of pool with a guy smoking a joint than a guy drinking whisky and beer? Someone smoking a joint doesn't all of the sudden rear back and stab his partner in the eye socket with a cue stick, ok? He's too busy laughing at the balls.

And you know as far as harder drugs go, if somebody wants to shoot up and die right in front of you, more power to him, you know? It's his call. And you know the herd always has a way of thinning itself out. We aren't stupid people here in America, no more than anyone else in the world, so why are we obsessing on habits that harm no one but the habitual, while we let real problems slip ever further out of reach. We seem to be willfully turning away from reality, and from logic might I add, to punish people, who in many instances are doing an extremely fine job of punishing themselves, thank you. And in some cases they're not even punishing themselves, but rather just following age old spawning instincts that are as woven as deeply into their brain as their need to watch 2 and A Half Men and Dancing With The Stars.

....Warph