anmar's Palestinian state.... Lord help us

[Warph]

"As long as the PLO and Hamas rule over the palestine people, there will never be peace!"

Everyone, and by "everyone" I mean the Obama Administration and the clowns of Washington D.C.'s, including our rag-headed camel jockey, anmar, the resident muslim clown, agrees that we need a Palestinian state.  Also, chiming in with their "Yes" votes are the dictators of a dozen Arab states who agree that the only thing that will fix the region is adding another Arab dictatorship to the place, and subtracting the region's one democracy.

But who actually needs a Palestinian state?  Or rather a second Palestinian state.  The first Palestinian state, commonly called Jordan, was carved out of the Palestine Mandate and equipped with a refugee Saudi royal family.  Today Jordan exists mainly under the protection of the US and Israel, and its population of Palestinian Arabs is a seething mass of Muslim extremists currently enjoying a 30 percent unemployment rate, where the majority of the population supports Osama Bin Laden, at a higher percentage rate than even Pakistan.

But Jordan is practically heaven on earth compared to the Second Palestinian wantabe State that the Obama Administration is to determined to inflict on Israel.

Currently ruled by mutually hostile armed gangs loyal to either the Fatah (PLO)  or Hamas terrorist groups, Palestine.... we'll call it 2.0.... has already been a failed state for over a decade.  Every attempt at foreign investment has failed.  The ruins of industrial zones, greenhouses and even a casino, dot the landscape.  Palestinian Arab Christians from overseas who returned to build up the economy fled quickly in the face of relentless shakedowns, kidnappings and militia gangs masquerading as law enforcement. 

The vast majority of Palestinian Arabs work for two employers.  The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) and the Palestinian Authority... which in turn is funded by foreign donors.  Work for the Palestinian Authority usually means belonging to a militia gang which is loyal to a particular figure in the PA leadership, who in turn passes that loyalty on to the current "government."  With little to do, the gangs spend their free time dealing drugs, carrying out terrorist attacks and killing jews and collecting protection money from their town's remaining stores.  Nice guys, huh.  This is who anmar supports.

For 17 years, Israel, America and just about every interested party has tried to build a Palestinian state.  They provided weapons and training to build a modern Palestinian police force.  They sent advisers and fortunes in economic aid, thousands per Palestinian Arab.  They created industrial zones and transferred greenhouses.  Billions in funds from the EU, America and various do-gooders were swallowed up to fund the lavish lifestyles of Arafat and his henchmen.

To those who argue that a Palestinian State will build regional stability, the rational person must ask, how in the world has any of this contributed to regional stability?

Year after year, the proposed Palestinian State has become a worse place.  Given autonomy, its own military, political, legal and economic system-- "Palestine" has made the region more unstable than ever.  Terrorism has increased.  Violence has increased. General instability has increased.  Proposing that more of this will stabilize the region is akin to a man setting fire to one piece of furniture after another in his living room, and claiming that when the entire room is on fire, it will be a safe place to live.

So I ask again, who needs a Palestinian state?  If the Palestinian Arabs really wanted a state (a second state) in Gaza, the West Bank and Eastern Jerusalem, they could have had it before 1967, when those territories were in Arab hands.  Instead the PLO back then called for no Palestinian state and the destruction of Israel.  As Clinton discovered to his chagrin at the end of his term, Arafat did not actually want a state and was not interested in accepting an Israeli offer that gave him 99 percent of what he wanted.  Is it really any surprise that Hamas today follows the same exact party line.... as does anmar? 

And really why would they want a Palestinian state?  If a state was actually created, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency would have to close up shop.  A Palestinian state could no longer rely on foreign donors to fund the hundred thousand or so armed gangsters who form its "government" and its only real form of employment.  And the same Muslim states who pass along "charity" to help fund the "martyr operations" that are behind much of the local terrorism would turn elsewhere.

Instead for 17 years the same tired opera has been playing in the region's one theater.  First the world's statesmen and diplomats descend on Israel, crying that the only hope for the region's stability is a Palestinian state.  Next the Israeli diplomats arrive with a generous territorial offer, counterbalanced by a second clause that asks that there be no more terrorism.  That second clause is immediately ignored by everyone in the room.

Next the Palestinian Authority diplomats arrive demanding twice as much land, no more border security preventing terrorists from entering Israel, half of Israel's capital, contiguous borders that would cut Israel in half, the ethnic cleansing of all Jews from territories claimed by them... and finally the return of the "refugees", which is code for unlimited immigration from their proposed Palestinian State into Israel.

The Israelis make a counteroffer.  The statesmen and diplomats accuse Israel of rejecting peace.  The Palestinian Arabs begin carrying out terrorist attacks again (assuming they even bothered to stop during the negotiations).  Israel bombs the terrorists.  The statesmen and diplomats accuse Israel of perpetuating the cycle of violence, and urge everyone to go back to the negotiating table.  By the time that happens a year later, the Palestinian Arabs have doubled their demands, and the whole "Cycle of Peacemaking" repeats itself all over again like it is now, with Obama and Clinton bearing gifts to the most corrupt govenment today which anmar feels it is just.  But, into todays news, their hopes of peace has failed.  Gee, O&C... did you really think the PLO clowns would relent and offer peace to Israel?  The cycle continues.  The "not so secret" secret here is that the Palestinian Arabs do not want a state or peace. 17 years of running the Palestinian Authority into the ground have shown how utterly incapable Fatah (PLO) and Hamas are of running anything, besides armed gangs, mosques and occasional social services to their loyalist families... all funded from abroad.

The Palestinian ruling powers derive their authority from two forces

1. The Muslim desire to destroy Israel as an infidel state whose existence contradicts Islam.  This keeps the money and arms flowing in to the different factions, as well as provides popular support by Arabs.  Which is why no Palestinian leader will recognize and accept the existence of Israel.  It is why Arafat negotiated out of one side of his mouth and ordered terrorist attacks out of the other.  It is why after his death. his Fatah movement has lost credibility and popular support to Hamas due to its increasing inability to kill Israelis.

2. Western and Israel diplomats who keep trying to create a Palestinian state out of the bizarre notion that such a state would bring the terrorism to an end.  Like all Dhimmi behaviors in regard to Islam, they ignore the fact that the short term goal of terrorism is terrorism.  The long term goal of terrorism is to conquer and hold the territory of the terrorized.  There is no room for the middle ground of compromise in that equation.  It's either absolute power, or nothing at all.

Terrorism is practiced by armed gangs and movements who derive their power and support from being terrorists.  Proposing that they stop being terrorists is a lot like walking into GM and suggesting that instead of making cars, they should make donuts and hand them out for free, so everyone will be happy.

Palestinian nationalism has always been a crock, a transparently phony justification for terrorism that has always come before nationalism.  Palestine was never a country or a state.  It was the name given by the Roman occupation forces to a region they were administering, a region far larger than modern day Israel.  There was never an Arab Palestinian king or ruler until Arafat.  There was never a separate country called Palestine.  The Post WW1 Palestine Mandate in the 20th century was used to create two states, an Arab state, Jordan, and a smaller state, Israel.

Now the drive is on to create Palestine 2.0, despite the obvious fact that the Palestinian Arabs have done everything possible to prevent it from coming into being.  Nearly two decades of terrorism have turned the endless rounds of peace negotiations into a joke.  Half the Palestinian Authority is now ruled by the Iranian backed Hamas terrorist group, which insists it will never recognize or accept permanent peace with Israel.  A state of affairs that never would have come into being, had Israel not completely withdrawn from Gaza in the first place.

So once again, who wants or needs a Palestinian state?

Israel did not come into being out of pity for the millions of Jews killed in the Holocaust.  Nor did it come into being thanks to US aid or support.  Both of those however are common myths.

The State of Israel was in place well before the Holocaust, in the form of an embryonic country of farmers who drained the swamps, businessmen who set up shops, journalists who printed newspapers, and soldiers who trained to protect and defend their homeland.  When the UN recognized Israel, it simply accepted the fait accompli that Israel existed and was capable of taking care of itself, which it proved by fighting the armies of the surrounding Arab nations to a standstill.  It did it without US military aid, which only came into the picture much later with the Kennedy administration.  It did it, because the people of Israel genuinely wanted their own state and worked to make it happen.

By 1942, 17 years after the Palestine Mandate, the Jews of Israel had built a thriving country, from power generators to vast stretches of farmland, from a revived language to the Technion, created in 1924, which is considered one of the world's leading electrical engineering and computer science schools in the world.

17 years after Oslo, the Palestinian Arabs have built nothing but death and destruction.  Worse yet they've taken everything that was given to them and turned it into either a weapon or a bribe.  By every standard, they have failed to show their ability to build or run a functioning state.  Not even the most liberally minded thinker can point to anything in the Palestinian Authority leadership that suggests that they're capable of running a functional state.  Which is why that same species will naturally duck the question and begin blaming Israel instead. Hence, Anmar.

And that highlights the real issue.  The only reason for creating Palestine 2.0 is the destruction of Israel.  It will not bring regional stability.  It will not even bring local stability. It cannot even function unless its entire workforce is funded from abroad.  It cannot even stop engaging in terrorism.

Palestine 2.0 is a Frankenstein's monster, with body parts from Shiite, Sunni and Marxist terrorists.  It only knows how to do one thing and one thing alone, KILL.  It is not a natural creature, because no Palestinian state ever existed throughout history.  It is an artificial state whose existence has only one purpose.  The destruction of Israel.

And that answers our question at last.  Who needs a Palestinian state?  Someone who is either ignorant, foolish or needs to destroy Israel.  Someone like Anmar!

The Two State Solution is not a formula for any kind of stability or end to the violence.  It is meant to take the violence to a whole new level.  It is a formula for the destruction of Israel.  17 years of peacemaking by Israel has produced 17 years of terrorism by the Palestinian Arabs.  Everything sown on the Palestinian Authority, from money to guns, from autonomy to infrastructure, have come up as dragon's teeth.

Palestine is not a state.  It was never a state.  It will never be a state.  It is currently ruled by two factions who have both disowned a negotiated Palestinian state in favor of the destruction of Israel.  It is not a country, it is a weapon.

Palestine is a gun aimed at the head of Israel with one goal, its destruction.  Palestine is a gun aimed at the head of every Jew in the world, legitimizing the worst and ugliest kinds of bigotry.  Palestine is an imaginary place given form as a vicious myth brainwashing generation after generation of Jordanian, Lebonese, and Egyptian Arabs to call themselves Palestinians and kill and die in the name of perpetuating a second Holocaust, all for the glory of Allah, Mohammed, Marx, not to mention Saddam Hussein, Ahmadinejad, the House of Saud, and every cause and ruler with an interest in toppling Israel into the dust.

Palestine is death.  It exists only as a form of living death by a population taught to see themselves as willing martyrs to the bomb belt from birth.  It breathes death, it celebrates death, it teaches death and preaches death.  It is the final ugly end of the hatred and cruelty bottled up in the Arab and Islamic dictatorships of the region.  It is the true face of Islam and its shining reflection in the mirror of the Western press and diplomats is the true measure of their Dhimmism.


The Cult of Death in Palestine and the war against Israel is only a preview for the West of things to come.  Palestine is not a place, it is hate and homicide boiled down into myth.  Palestine is not only in Israel.  It is in Paris and London.  It is in Madrid and Detroit.  It is in Sydney and Moscow.  It is everywhere that the toxic brew of Muslim fanaticism and Arab nationalism flows.  Its flag is the flag of death.  Its constitution is a death warrant for every free nation.  Its legislature is a smug coven of obese terrorist chieftains sending their followers off to death with the promise of virgin demons fornicating with them in Paradise.

This is fact, not fiction but, watch anmar try to turn it into lies.  Palestine 2.0 is a monster with only one purpose, to create Holocaust 2.0.  That is who needs a Palestinian state.  That is why the far left is so hellbent on bringing one into being.  Accepting the Two State Solution means accepting death.  Rejecting it means embracing life.

...Warph

[Anmar]

On most internet forums, you would be criticized for whats called a "Big wall of text" 

In your case, we have your patented big wall of lies, racism and hate.

Have a nice day and go back home.  Stop taking our tax dollars for your retirement and don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

[kshillbillys]

You're fine Warph. Anmar's panties are just in a wad because there won't be any money left when she's ready to retire. I'm not seeing the lies, racism and hate tho. You just keep on keepin on Warph!!---The Hillbillys