Throwing your money in the Trash..

[kshillbillys]

The end of life concept is nothing new. I remember back in the 70s, a show that was on for awhile called Logans Run and I believe that anyone over the age of 30 was to be euthanized and turned into food for the rest of the population. Recycling is nothing but a scam, like carbon credits, some places pay you to recycle others charge you. China has a one child law, i had heard of, but they're communist pieces of trash. And leave it to a democratic, liberal, for abortion with no kids of their own to tell us how many damn kids we should have or kill off.

MR. Hillbilly

[Diane Amberg]

First of all Logan's run was fiction. I remember it well. Secondly, why do you make everything personal? I don't go around telling lies about you.  Are you an ultra conservative neo Nazi, bigoted father of little kids all over the county, who hides from the bill collector and bullies the neighbors and neglects his poor wife in her time of pain? Now go jump on Varmit for suggesting you kill off your older relatives. Why are you so angry all the time? Perhaps you're a poor reader and you don't understand what people write? Sheesh! You are wasting your time trying to insult me.

[kshillbillys]

First of all Logan's run was fiction. I remember it well. Secondly, why do you make everything personal? I don't go around telling lies about you.  Are you an ultra conservative neo Nazi, bigoted father of little kids all over the county, who hides from the bill collector and bullies the neighbors and neglects his poor wife in her time of pain? Now go jump on Varmit for suggesting you kill off your older relatives. Why are you so angry all the time? Perhaps you're a poor reader and you don't understand what people write? Sheesh! You are wasting your time trying to insult me.

It's nice to know that you comment and ridicule anything and everything that anyone else who is Republican or a RINO says and never start your own posts. But when it comes time for you to stick your two cents in it's wrote up being a buck fifty on confederate money. As far as for paying child support, I did pay my child support. Me and my wife have two kids that live at home now. The other two are grown up and on their own. Not that it's any of your business. I could give you some parenting advice but let's just say i'm glad you're not raising any kids. God help the ones that you taught.   MR. KSH

And I have NO clue as to what the hell you're talking about about "neglecting his poor wife in her time of pain"...I'm in no pain. We don't hide from any bill collectors. We don't hide from our neighbors. We're not "ultra" conservatives we just believe in what's right. We believe in right and wrong and raise our children as such. And by the way, I'd rather YOU leave me out of your little rants on the forum. Your little private message to me on my birthday may have been the "nice" thing to do but there was a nice little happy birthday to me thread up and you don't have to sneak around to tell me happy birthday. Get your panties out of a wad and say it in the GENERAL forum... MRS. KSH

P.S. Varmit was giving a fictional idea that is ridiculous as he stated. Yes I know Logan's Run was fictional. I'm not a 3rd grade moron. I know that the guy that played on Logan's Run also played on Austin Powers. OMG that wasn't real either?  MR. KSH

[twirldoggy]

How about the recycling program in Elk county?  Does someone on the forum know what happens to the recycled goods ?  I seem to remember that the Lions sorted through it but don't know what happened to it in the long run.

[Mom70x7]

I know parts of the answer.

The Howard Area Lions club and other volunteers from the surrounding towns pick up the cardboard and take it to the recycling shed in Howard. There it is crushed, baled and eventually sold, with the money returning to the county. Within the last couple of weeks, they had a company from Wichita come down and pick up 30 bales, each weighing a little over 1100 pounds. I'm not sure how many days it takes to make a bale, it depends upon the cardboard picked up. It's been a busy week, with school starting and the teachers unpacking the boxes from last spring.

Some packing boxes are also saved and available for people who need to move. That's where the teachers got a lot of their boxes last spring - from the recycling shed.

The aluminum cans are crushed and taken to Independence and sold, with the money returning to the county.

I'll ask Jim sometime about the plastics. I know they are taken to El Dorado most of the time, sometimes Wichita.

[Diane Amberg]

 KS, I wasn't going to dignify your spew with a comment but I changed my mind.  You need to get it back on occasion. Don't make me your personal hate project. It doesn't help your born again Christian reputation a bit. I said "Are you....?" It was totally made up of nothing and all you had to say was "No." I have no idea about your family situation just as you know nothing about mine. You hang all kinds of untrue hurtful labels on me and I just wondered how you would feel if it were done to you. I guess I touched a nerve. Tsk.Tsk.  I'm  brave enough to fight back when you are being unfair to writers. If all you ever want to hear is from people who are clones of yourself, then go start your own forum and limit it to just you six or seven. You can peek out from behind the curtains and watch 'them," so they won't getcha. Goofy politics has been going on in this country from the beginning and in spite of what those fear mongers on TV say, it will still be going on 50 years from now.
 Usually I comment about issues; the person's own party affiliation means nothing to me.General fairness does. I will make an exception in your case. You make no effort to be polite so I won't either.  Yes, I will comment when the "misinformation train" pulls into the station. If you don't like it, don't read it. By the way, that birthday thread wasn't up yet when I wished your wife a happy birthday. (I notice YOU are the one who started it.)  It was sincere and I meant what I said. If it isn't accepted you know where you can stick it. My statement about avoiding having kids and saving all the money was an idea like Varmits, had nothing to do with you, and was meant to be taken the same way as his...a fictional suggestion. If you can't see that, well that's too bad. I shouldn't have to explain it to you. Or can't you read? Mrs. KS, go take your own advice. This started out as comments on recycling and you turned it into a personal attack on me. The sad thing is, I agreed with a lot of what Varmit said about the care for the environment going overboard sometimes. There has to  be a balance between that and depriving people of what they need.  I doubt recycling is as expensive as starting out with raw materials, but it does have it's own cost.Those plastic water bottles are a good example. Using a reusable container is much better all the way around. We do need to care for our drinking water and the oceans and the air but we need to take care of people too. Hopefully not by turning cardboard and plastic into "food" like they do in China.  Now go pick on someone else for awhile. Your personal  insecurities are not my problem.

[kshillbillys]

What I meant by not including me in your little rants had nothing to do with this topic. Ever since the big blow up YOU caused on the Black Panther thread, you have attacked me, although not by name, in most of your little posts on this entire forum. So therefore, leave ME AND MY FAMILY out of your little rants. Until then, I will pick apart every damn thing you say anytime I don't agree with it, which is pretty much all the time. And that's pretty much what you do to EVERY one on here, except your so-called friends. You told me you aren't even remotely my enemy in that email. Well I disagree.

Darn the luck that my husband had to start that thread too...At least he did. It was nice too. If you were really sincere about your message to me, then you wouldn't have just told me that if I don't accept it, then I know where I can stick it. And by the way, he reads just fine. Brought up by good parents in a good school system. Not all of us on here are as stupid as you would really like to believe.  Who left you boss over this forum to tell me to go away and start my own? I live in this county. I was born and raised right here in this area, as was ALL of my family. I have the same beliefs as most of the people in this area and I am NO outsider. Trust me, I can take all you have to dish and then some honey!

[Varmit]

  Varmit, there is no comparison whatever between "end of life" and recycling card board. How about we go the other way? You can only have one child, so now you have to kill the other one.  Save all the hassle. Cheaper too. Or keep sending trash to China. They buy most of your trash as it is.  The we just stop buying it back after it's made into new goods. Problem solved.

Diane, you totally missed my point.  In the article I posted people are not only being forced to recycle under threats of fines, but also are being fined for setting their trash out too early or late.  Trash cans embedded with RFID chips to monitor the amount and type of trash a person throws out??  How much more Big Brother do we need in our lives?  Again it is about small steps that progress towards total control and away from liberty and individuality.  You mentioned the One Child only policy...that exists in China.  Can't happen here you say, really?  Bear in mind that some of obamas closest advisors follow the teachings of Mao...What country is he popular in?...oohh yeaah....CHINA.  Goffy politics 50 years from now...not if we continue down the road we're on.  Do a little research and take a good hard look at the folks in office and what they want to establish.  You think that Mandatory End of Life is really that far from what obama thinks?  What do you think obamacare is all about?  Its regulating who gets the healthcare.  Open your eyes and take a look at whats going on...its not a conspiracy if its true.

[srkruzich]

Diane, you totally missed my point.  In the article I posted people are not only being forced to recycle under threats of fines, but also are being fined for setting their trash out too early or late.  Trash cans embedded with RFID chips to monitor the amount and type of trash a person throws out??  How much more Big Brother do we need in our lives?  Again it is about small steps that progress towards total control and away from liberty and individuality.  You mentioned the One Child only policy...that exists in China.  Can't happen here you say, really?  Bear in mind that some of obamas closest advisors follow the teachings of Mao...What country is he popular in?...oohh yeaah....CHINA.  Goffy politics 50 years from now...not if we continue down the road we're on.  Do a little research and take a good hard look at the folks in office and what they want to establish.  You think that Mandatory End of Life is really that far from what obama thinks?  What do you think obamacare is all about?  Its regulating who gets the healthcare.  Open your eyes and take a look at whats going on...its not a conspiracy if its true.

Got a letter from the Guberment and they decided to put me with healthspring for my prescription coverage. ONly problem is they don't cover my prescriptions.   Think that is a coincidence??  NOT A CHANCE!
Now i hope i can get my coverage changed to one that does...

[Diane Amberg]

 Varmit and Steve. We too have regulations on how soon our trash goes out and when the cans  come back in. It isn't enforced  It just isn't a big deal. As far as the can chips, I don't get it either but I suspect it has more to do with letting contracts for salvage and predicting how much there might be rather than having our individuality taken away. We're talking trash here, not making everyone wear red shirts. I know that here we are on the edge of having to look for a new land fill site and everyone is trying hard to make Cherry Island last as long as possible. Out there you don't have that problem. There is just more land. As far as the China baby rule, of course I knew about that long ago. They have a huge population that they almost can't feed. That's why they eat ANYTHING that isn't poisonous. In this country  we have the opposite problem. We should be having larger families.
  Steve, I am truly sorry about your prescription problems.  Does your doctor have a connection that can help you? Social Services?  Medicaid? Get hold of the formulary and see what equivalents there are, if any, for what you take. I looked up your plan and I think most all plans are going to also go with a % of the cost rather than a copay. The drug companies are going to hurry up and make their profits now before the new programs kick in.