War quote quiz

[Silver Creek Slim]

"[A] war that has discovered the unworthiness of its cause . . . and gross mismanagement of which has filled thousands of graves with victims . . . demonstrates nothing more clearly than our unpreparedness for it . . . and has launched us on a career of empire."

Which American war is the quote referring to?

Slim

[Delmonico]

Mexican War and I think it was Robert . Lee's quote.

[Silver Creek Slim]

Later than that. It came from a "news" rag.

Slim

[Four-Eyed Buck]

Spanish-American War

[Silver Creek Slim]

Spanish-American War

We have a winner! It was in the Nov. 1898 issue of Harper's Weekly.

Slim

[Four-Eyed Buck]

I've seen articles that state that this one was the presses war. The Hurst papers were instrumental in advocating it. believe they called it "Yellow" journalism...........Buck

[St. George]

There's a book out there that illustrates the impact of the Press on war.

The title is "Truth Is The First Casualty" - but the author's name remains lost in my memory.
Mostly - it follows the way that propaganda is created and used, but it's interesting, nonetheless.

It shows the need for serious research - both by the media reporting the story and by the reader using potentially biased single-source information to form his opinions.

Bet CBS wishes they'd done that...

The term "Yellow Journalism" came about as a result of the virulent hatred of the Chinese in California - the dreaded "Yellow Peril" - and any and all of their depradations were embellished and printed.
For example - if a Chinese kills a man in a fight - well, that's what he did.
But when Hearst got the story it would be "Opium-Crazed Chinaman Runs Amok With Knife - Kills American"...

William Randolph Hearst wasted no effort in keeping the public aroused when it came to the Chinese immigrants through the heavy-handed use of his newspapers.
Later - he continued this with the Mexicans - and that would last a good many years as well.

The term "Yellow Journalism" equates to "sensationalist journalism" - today - we'd call it "tabloid press".

Scouts Out!

[Four-Eyed Buck]

I agree, St. George. Hearst built a very large empire with it. i believe "Tabloid Press" is the correct analogy.................Buck

[Capt. Hamp Cox]

"Don't one of you fire until you see the whites of their eyes." 

Name the speaker, battle, and war.  (No "GOOGLE" Slim.)

[Delmonico]

Said to have been Putnam at Bunker hill, Jackson at New Orleans and others at other battles, desputed by some historians,.  But not a bad Idea, espically with smooth bore muskets.

Welcome back Cap.  Read the coffee thread, I had Slim trying every search engine and he could not find the answer.

[Capt. Hamp Cox]

Howdy, Del.

Like you say, more than a couple a folks have gotten credit for originatin' that catchy phrase.  A majority of sources, however, credit another Bunker Hill participant.  Let's see if anyone else wants to take a chance on this one.

Good to be back, been overcome by events here lately, and they have seriously curtailed my fun activities.  Didn't even get to shoot with Big Hext yesterday.  Hopin' things will level off soon. 

Hamp

[Delmonico]

I'm stumped now, was he nearsighted?

[Capt. Hamp Cox]

Hint:  He was a colonel when he gave that order.  Maybe in civilian life he was an eye specialist? 

[Brazos Bucky Smith]

???Probably too obvious to be Col. Teddy Rousevelt hmmmmmm?

BB

[Capt. Hamp Cox]

It was (according to my sources) Colonel Samuel Prescott at the Battle of Bunker Hill.

Let's try one that's a bit more recent:

"I have never advocated war except as a means of peace." 

[Russ T Chambers]

It was (according to my sources) Colonel Samuel Prescott at the Battle of Bunker Hill.

Let's try one that's a bit more recent:

"I have never advocated war except as a means of peace." 

Been watching History Channel's Civil War Journal too much.  That was General U. S. Grant.  Don't know when, he might not have even had that third star at the time.

[Capt. Hamp Cox]

It was (according to my sources) Colonel Samuel Prescott at the Battle of Bunker Hill.

Let's try one that's a bit more recent:

"I have never advocated war except as a means of peace." 

Been watching History Channel's Civil War Journal too much.  That was General U. S. Grant.  Don't know when, he might not have even had that third star at the time.

You're right again, Russ T.  We're gonna have to watch it, or folks gonna start thinkin we're in collusion or some such thang.

Since we're here anyway, how about this quote:

"It is well that war is so terrible -- we shouldn't grow too fond of it." 

[Four-Eyed Buck]

Haven't got the exact quotee, but it's another CW general.........Buck

[Capt. Hamp Cox]

Haven't got the exact quotee, but it's another CW general.........Buck

You're half way there, Buck, don't stop now.

[Four-Eyed Buck]

Okay, I'll take a semi-uneducated guess..........Gen. W.T. Sherman ............Buck