Dakota Widowmaker Bullet Question

Started by Fox Creek Kid, May 21, 2006, 04:49:03 PM

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Fox Creek Kid

I have some of these bullets and firstly let me say that I love 'em, but they chamber hard (I am crimping on the groove) and the spent cases extract extremely hard as well. Someome once said (I think  ???) that you had to seat this bullet a hair deeper than the crimp groove for positive feeding re OAL. Is this so? I just can't figure out why the empty cases extract so hard as well. I don't have this problem with the Rapine bullet.

Hell-Er High Water

Fox Creek Kid,

When I first modified the Lee mould a couple of years ago I seated the bullet to where I could crimp in the top groove.  This did not work out to be the best.  I think that you have found the same problem,

I now seat the bullet so that the overall cartridge length is 1.575" (+/-) and crimp on the nose just in front of the first band.  This provides a smooth transition from the bullet nose to the case and leaves no step to hang up when chambering.

I also cast the bullets from straight wheel weights which gives a little harder bullet than with an alloy of say 20:1.  This harder bullet also helps the feeding.

My original mould has cast hundreds and hundreds of bullets now for the past two years and the design has proved to be a good one for this caliber.  Get youself a mould from from Dakota Widowmaker, he makes them commercially, I don't, and go to it.  The mould is an easy one to use and will cast bullets at a good rate of speed.

Good shooting.

HHW

Black River Smith

I cut down one of those Lee 500 gr moulds also.  My moulded bullet measures 0.762".  I crimp above the first band also.  The reason why I do that is because an original Win 44-40 mould and loader crimps at that same spot.  It holds the bullet in the case and keeps it from moving forward.  The powder keeps it from moving deeper. So I kept the same idea.  My bullets load to and OAL of 1.569 +/- a little.

They cycle without a problem.
Black River Smith

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