Remington Rolling Block parts???

Started by klausg, April 21, 2006, 01:25:10 PM

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klausg

 ??? Hey gang-

     This is my first post on this forum and I'm hoping some of you may be able to help me out.  I've got a roller that I'm planning to do a complete re-build on; I'll paste the description I posted on Remington Society of America's forum below to save me some typing:

      The tang reads, "REMINGTON ARMS CO. // ILION, N.Y. U.S.A. // PATENTED OCTR 22nd 1901, (slashes indicate seperate lines). On top of the reciever is a serial # (?) of 22208, stamped. Approximately 8" back from the muzzle it is stamped "CAL 7MM". The only other markings I can find are on the under side of the barrel at the reciever. There is a long horizontal dash that almost connects to a stylized 'P' (possibly a 'D') the 'P' has a 'tail' on it that continues down and loops back to the left ending with what looks like a fish hook barb. There is an approx 3/16" hole bored approx 1/16" deep at this point. There is the remnant of another dash intersecting this hole, followed by a 'Y', (maybe a'V'), and finally a 2. The buttstock has the number '710', appears to have been put in with a nail, (the 7 is European style with a dash). above that is a '2d' that was done a little better. There are also a set of initials 'GC' carved, (not very well), into the buttstock. It is a carbine, barrel length is approx 20.5" and there is a saddle ring. Any help I could get with the identification and or dating would be greatly appreciated; thanks much.

     So far no one on that board has given me any info as to what model roller I have;  I have gotten information from other forums and some research which lead me to believe that it is a Model 1, or at least those are the parts that will fit, (it's also referred to as a Model 5 or 1902).  My dilemma is this, I need to replace all of the exterior screws and both the hammer & block pins.  I plan on having the receiver engraved and then satin nickeled to a 'French grey' and my fear is that by the time I polish the pins/screws I won't have enough metal left to work.  The screws were fairly buggered before I started on them, (I still have one more to go, & that one may need an easy-out). 

     Does anyone out there know of some place I can get the screws?  Numrich has some, but not all; Wisners has no screws.  Also, I am planning on re-barreling, any suggestions as to caliber?  I'm thinking of .405 Win as that is the biggest, low pressure smokeless cartridge I know of,  I live in Alaska & would like to hunt bear/moose with this when I get done.  Thanks much in advance.

-SSG Klaus

willyboy

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Bull Schmitt

I have a listing for Remington and Stevens quality replacement screws:

Idaho's Cutting Edge
2699 W. 2699 W 2000 S
Aberdeen, ID 83210
(208) 397-4204

I have not done business with them but they might be worth contacting.



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Hell-Er High Water

I have purchased replacment parts for my Remington Rolling Block rifles, carbines and project guns from Bill Wescombe of Glencoe, CA for the last 20 years or so.  I have not bought anything from him in the last couple of years so you will have to see if he is still in business.  He has been talking about retiring for the last 10 years at least.  In the past he has had a good selection of parts and accessories for most models.

His contact info is:

Bill Wescombe
P. O. Box 488
Glencoe, CA  95232
Phone:  209/293-7010

As for conversion to other calibers, over the years I have converted several RRB rifles to 40-70 Sharps Straight, 45 Colt, 45-70 & 50-70.  This has been done on the No. 1 military actions; "Early" black powder actions, "Late" black powder actions and the Smokeless" powder actions.  I have used both black powder and smokeless powder loads in all of them.  As long as I have stayed with black powder loads or a smokeless load that is approximatly eqivilant to a Trapdoor Springfield load I have not had any problems.  

In my original 7MM guns I have experienced case seperations with factory equivilant smokeless loads.  Because of the several lockup points (breech to breech block, breech block to hammer, breech block pin to action and hammer pin to action) there are just too many places to take up the necessary clearances for case stretching not to occure with higher pressure loads.  Whatever caliber you choose, stick to the lower pressure loads in this action.

I hope that offers some insite as to what can be done with these fine old guns.

HHW

klausg

Hey gang, thanks for all of the input, it should help me with this project.  That is provided I can figure out what cartridge I want to go with;  currently I'm leaning towards a .40-65, though the only data I can find for it is with a 400gr bullet; not that it wouldn't do the job, but I think a 300 would be a lot less painful on my end.  Anyway, thanks again for all of your help, I will be sure to post pic's when I complete this project, may be a while though ;D.

-SSG Klaus

MLR

Hello:

You might try this guy.

Kenn Womack
5100 Garden Valley Rd.
Garden Valley, CA 95633
(530) 333-2233

Michael

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