Another clone authenticity question

Graveyard Jack · January 19, 2025, 12:13:57 PM

Quote from: Coffinmaker on January 15, 2025, 09:09:18 AMPersonally, I don't necessarily understand that desire for something "The Way It Was." From 2 feet, you can't tell the difference. The more modern "square" sights simply work better and are easier to acquire a sight picture. But, since it ain't my gun, do what you will I suppose. Plus, the manufacturers have ben responding to their major market "CAS" for many years. Some of those changes are kind of stupid, but must also please the Feds.

Same here, I've been fighting with that infernal thumbscrew on my new "Old West" Uberti all week. Gimme the plunger any day of the week. The sights are aggravating too. There's no telling how many blackpowder frames I have and curse them all.

I like the bullseye ejector but can work with either style of those.

Abilene · January 19, 2025, 12:34:07 PM

Getting the BP frame base pin screw installed on the reproductions requires some finesse as the base pin has to be in the perfect position or the screw can loosen when firing. If you grind off the rear of the base pin to eliminate the "Italian safety" or replace the pin with a standard Colt-length pin (like the 3-clickers now use) then when you push it all the way in, it is perfectly aligned for the screw. Crank it down and it stays tight. I don't use the thumbscrew as it is ugly and can't be tightened as well. The only time I would use that is if I'm working on the gun and needing to take it apart real often.

Graveyard Jack · January 20, 2025, 12:14:32 AM

I guess I need to start grinding on basepins but most of these I bought used and didn't come with the flush screw.

Coffinmaker · January 20, 2025, 09:10:48 AM

Graveyard Jack

I know you already know this, but I have to put it out there anyway. Both Pietta and Uberti make/provide that tasty little Base Pin Screw. Best bet to acquire same is probably Cimarron. Of course (you already know) ordering enough for all will make the shipping less painful. I'd probably also query VTI. EMF may also have them for Pietta but EMF will beat ya up on shipping.

If we are talking about Pietta, I am the Poster Child for the GW II. However: My experience with my most recent Pietta Base Pins is to just trash 'em. They really really really SUCK!! I replaced my most recent with Uberti non-safety single groove base pins (Via VTI). Perfect Fitz, puttin on the Ritz.

PS: Forgot, that be a fine pile of SAs you betcha!! Really nice guns (drool drool)

Graveyard Jack · January 20, 2025, 11:45:17 AM

I think I'd rather keep the knurled thumbsrews. At least I can tighten them without tools. I will look at single groove basepins. I really wish they could just leave the original design alone without all the crap they have to add for importation. Okay, off to VTI.......

I may backorder a .44Spl cylinder for my flat-top while I'm at it.

Cheyenne Logan · January 22, 2025, 06:03:51 PM

"I really wish they could just leave the original design alone without all the crap they have to add for importation. Okay, off to VTI..."

I agree, but it's required by our government for Importation, same reason Uberti makes the 1962 "Pocket" model conversion with a 6" barrel! There are hoops you have to jump through to import handguns.....thanks to GCA '68

Graveyard Jack · January 23, 2025, 01:57:41 PM

Quote from: Cheyenne Logan on January 22, 2025, 06:03:51 PM"I really wish they could just leave the original design alone without all the crap they have to add for importation. Okay, off to VTI..."

I agree, but it's required by our government for Importation, same reason Uberti makes the 1962 "Pocket" model conversion with a 6" barrel! There are hoops you have to jump through to import handguns.....thanks to GCA '68

I know, I said that.

Cheyenne Logan · January 23, 2025, 04:49:48 PM

Which is why I used the quotation marks........

RoyceP · January 24, 2025, 10:06:55 PM

I put the flush fitting base pin screw in my Uberti (it came in the box from Cimarron) but I recently changed back to the bigger one. It has a screwdriver slot too and it stays in place when I tighten it with a screwdriver. I like seeing the bigger one, to see the flush one requires that I turn the revolver to look.

Coffinmaker · January 25, 2025, 07:55:29 AM

Hey All

Just a little quick FYI about the tasty little BP frame base pin retaining screw. There are two "keys" to keeping that little bugger tight. Key number one: Don't allow the screw to bottom against the Base Pin. The tip of the screw needs to bottom out in it's well, NOT on the Base Pin. Number two: If you don't wish to dress the end of the screw, a tiny drop of BLUE LocTite is your friend.

RRio · Reply #30 - Re: Another clone authenticity question

Pietta now owns EMF/Great Western, and as a dyed in the wool Uberti owner, Pietta is your huckleberry. I refuse to buy another 3 click Uberti.