Swedish Rolling Block Incoming

Started by DeaconKC, October 20, 2024, 10:14:21 PM

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DeaconKC

Quote from: Cap'n Redneck on November 06, 2024, 04:32:39 AMCongrats on your new Rolling Block!

The crowned "C" on the right side of the receiver means it was manufactured at the "Carl Gustaf Stads Gevärsfaktori" (English: Rifle Factory of Carl Gustaf's Town) in Eskilstuna.

It does not look like the serial numbers on the receiver and barrel match, so probably a barrel swap at some time? 
You have the military rear sight, graduated in meters. 
Most sporterized Swedish Rolling Blocks had the rear sight swapped for a small fixed sight with one or two foldable leafs.

The two holes in the left side of the receiver puzzle me.... - maybe someone has tried to mount a hunting dioptre or scope on the gun at some time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_M1867

https://www.militaryrifles.com/swedish/m1867remington

Thanks for the detailed report! Yes, I am certain it was rebarreled at some point. The only thing that HAS to be done at this point is fitting the new extractor. That and acquire some brass that will work for the beastie!
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Yours is prettier than mine.  Mine has the 2 leaf folding sight CPT Red Neck mentioned.

Congratulations.
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Black River Smith

Very nice looking rifle you found there.  Congrats!
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DeaconKC

Thank you gentlemen, dies arrived today, more to follow. ::)
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DeaconKC

Well, I spent several hours Saturday trying to fit the new extractor. Could never get the channel free enough for it to fit, so today took it to work where i Used Gunscrubber to blast it clean. Doing so, it did flush a bunch of gunk free, but then when we wiped it out, we saw that the obstruction was actually that the chamber is cracked and was binding it. It couldn't be seen before the scrubber let us wipe it out. It was purchased from a reputable dealer and he is going to make it good.

Well...rats
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Tascosa Joe

It sure was pretty. Its a shame it is no longer serviceable. >:(
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Coal Creek Griff

That's sad. If you're anything like me, you'll now spare no expense, including selling body parts and relatives, to acquire a replacement.

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Reverend P. Babcock Chase

Hey Deacon,

What about a price adjustment? Then maybe a rebarrel in the caliber of your choice? It is a pretty gun overall.

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Cap'n Redneck

The cheapest fix would probably be to set the barrel back far enough to get rid of the cracked chamber.  Then rechamber in .50-70 Gov't.
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DeaconKC

Well the seller has another Swede coming in, so when it arrives I will go over to see it. He has been first class. Yeah I doubt the next will have the sensational case hardening this one did but i want a shooter, not a wall hanger.
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Sir Charles deMouton-Black

When Sweden selected the Remington rolling block system, it was intended as a conversion system. In 1860 they had adopted a .50 caliber Wrede minie rifle. Norway had adopted The Kammerlader rifle and some were converted to rolling block. (see the article below.) The first rifles were made by Remington, plus 20,000 Remington actions. after that, Sweden made their own actions. Most rolling block rifles were conversions of the older Wrede muzzleloaders with the rest of the piece as the original 1860 bits & pieces, including the barrel. I'm sure new parts were involved later, but I have no info on the details. That barrel could be 184 years old.

I did some researching. Although I am mostly Swedish, I found a lot of good info on this Norwegian site;
https://svartkrutt.net/articles/vis.php?id=3%3E

P,S, The Norwegian Kammerlader (chamber loader) are interesting historically but I think finding one would be like finding angel wings. Militaries around the world then, were thinking seriously about scirmishing tactics. It's hard to do when you have to stand up to reload. The Kammerlader looks like a trapdoor Springfield with and additional hinged element. to reload- open the action and flip open the main bit, then flip open the second exposing a chamber into which a paper cartridge could be loaded. Close it up, prime, cock & shoot (Like that old US flintlock rifle with the flip-up breach)
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That sounds pretty Rube Goldberg to me :P
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DeaconKC

Actually, he just emailed me at dinner. The replacement gun has arrived and I will get over there later this week to check the new gun out.
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