Chiappa .45 Colt Spencer ....broken

Started by Macon Due, August 02, 2023, 04:35:01 PM

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Macon Due

Hi all. I was finally able to purchase a Cimarron Spencer in .45 Colt. I fired it 28 times and had a few minor feeding problems. Then I took it home, cleaned it and the next day I loaded 50 rds. to exactly 1.600" as recommended in the manual for the Spencer. I still had a few feeding problems so I went back to the shop and seated 7 of the rounds  bullets a bit deeper to 1.595" OAL. I then tried these and still had a few problems with feeding and now it seemed a bit with extraction. I was not firing these rounds, only working them thru the magazine/action. Anyhow after trying those 7 rds.thru the mag. once I reloaded the mag. with them again. It worked 4 of them through the action and the other 3 would not feed. Then I noticed the action would only open about 2/3 of the way.? This of course would not uncover the magazine to allow a round to feed from it. Today I removed the breech block assmb. and disassembled it. I was hoping to find a broken part etc. but all seemed fine. [ Every screw on this New Cimarron was finger tight only] Anyway after 2 tries at putting it back together and it still not opening but 2/3 of the way I started  reassembling it without a part, checking function and then replacing that part and leaving out another. Naturally the extractor was the last thing I removed and upon reassembly the action now opened fully. When examining the interior of the action with a flash light I can see that in the groove where the extractor rides there are 2 places where it appears the hook edge of the extractor has dug into the metal in the groove and raised a noticeable  burr? One is at the top just under the chamber and the other is about 1/4" up from the bottom of the groove. I cannot help but assume this is my problem? Has anyone else experienced this problem? My thoughts are to attempt to remove these burrs[ gouged up places] from the extractor groove. I am thinking a Dremel with a very small stone run slowly and attempt to smooth the groove out? Does this seem that it might be the solution? Thank you for any help and sorry for such a long post.
Macon Due 29445

Macon Due

Well Gents
It appears lots of folks read this but it seems no one has any ideas? So......with that in mind I used a Dremel with the flex shaft and a very small stone and very carefully and gently 
smoothed the burrs in the extractor groove. Of course even a fine stone left it with a sort of 'ground'
appearing ' surface. So next was fine sandpaper on a sliver of wood which helped a lot. I am hoping to be able to eventually get into the groove with the Dremel using a very small felt tip with compound on it. But for now I lubed it with black moly grease, reassembled it and tested it. So far it works perfectly, and action of course opens all the way and the action is a touch smoother than before. Hopefully the extractor will not cause any more problems. Maybe this ordeal will help someone else.
Macon Due 29445

DJ

Your approach makes sense.  Any chance of posting photos?

Macon Due

D.J.
I am sorry but I took no photos of the 'ordeal'. I did try to attach a photo of the carbine here but it kept saying my photo was too large so I gave up. I just watched a video on U tube of disassembly and cleaning of the Spencer and took it from there.
Macon

greyhawk

thanks for posting - my son has one of these - its been fine so far (maybe three hundred rounds)

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