1875 Remington Outlaws Light strickes

[Charlie Bowdre]

hi folks I shoot a pair of 1875 Outlaws ,love em but i am getting a few light strikes on my primers , mostly on Win Lg Primers.
On the second tap they go off
Might it be the primers? Or...is their a quick fix?
Thanks Appreciate all replys
Charlie

[Abilene]

I would ask some questions.
Do you have a lightened main spring?
Are the primer hits good on the ones that went off the first time, or a little shallow looking?
Is it possible that you had somewhat high primers? These would get seated on the first hammer blow.
Do you shoot with 2 hands?  Some people "ride the hammer down" with the thumb occasionally, or the hammer hits their thumb on the way down.
How long have you had the guns before this started?
You said "mostly on Win Lg primers".  Has it happened with Federal?
If this only happens at matches, then yes you are going to keep cycling until it goes bang, but have you looked at one of those that didn't go bang to be sure it didn't have an off-center hit?  (off-center hits: cylinder over-rotating).
That's all I can think of at the moment.

[Charlie Bowdre]

No to the lightened mainspring, The first strike is not heavy ,and a bit dimpled
All are checked prior to loading so I would say no to them being high
yes two handed SASS style
Started almost right away
Not happened with Federal or CCI
Will check next time i go to the range with regards off centered hits

Thank you so much
charlie

[Abilene]

Well that is odd that it doesn't happen with Federal or CCI.  CCI used to be the hardest primer but not any more (if you are using newer primers). But since you have the full power main spring, that is odd since it should set off ANY primer, unless it is old and worn and lost it's strength.  I won't insult your intelligence by asking if those are Large RIFLE Winchester primers.    

I guess less likely things would be the hammer rubbing on the side its slot in the frame (you would see scratches on the side of the hammer), but that usually only affects guns with lighter springs.  Maybe check to see if the firing pin is worn and not protruding through the frame far enough. 

Maybe somebody else will chime in.  I don't really have shooting experience with Remingtons, but these things are pretty universal.  You might consider posting this in the gunsmithing section.  Some people only look at specific forums. 

Light hits are a pain.  Good luck!

[King Medallion]

How much is your tension screw turned in?

[Charlie Bowdre]

thanks guys appreciate your comments
don't worry about any insults
also tension screw is all the way in

thank you i appreciate replies from you
charlie

[Cheyenne Logan]

Just a thought, are the safety bars loose? they should be up in their place at the top of the hammer slot, see if they wiggle any when the hammer is cocked, one could be a little loose and dropping down just enough to not let the hammer all the way down.

[Abilene]

Just a thought, are the safety bars loose? they should be up in their place at the top of the hammer slot, see if they wiggle any when the hammer is cocked, one could be a little loose and dropping down just enough to not let the hammer all the way down.

Safety bars? 

[Charlie Bowdre]

not at home just now  will check all hammer functions
thanks
charlie

[Cheyenne Logan]

Safety bars? 

That little piece of metal on the hammer face below the firing pin......it pivots down when activated, but I've seen them be loose and can partially come down, causing a light strike/misfire.

[Abilene]

That little piece of metal on the hammer face below the firing pin......it pivots down when activated, but I've seen them be loose and can partially come down, causing a light strike/misfire.

Ah,gotcha.  The hammer block. 

[Charlie Bowdre]

Ah,gotcha.  The hammer block.

Can you remove if loose?

[Abilene]

I've never tried to remove it.  There are other parts inside the hammer that connect it to a rod that is in the safety notch of the hammer.  If you put the hammer on the safety notch, it pushes the rod up and the block goes forward.  I've only got one older Cimarron, a Thunderer, that has it.  All my others have the standard hammer.  I've not heard of it getting loose, but Cheyenne has and he has had experience with those guns.

[Charlie Bowdre]

Thanks Any suggestions for  hammer replacements??
Charlie

[Abilene]

vtigunparts.com

But I just re-read your original post, and you didn't say if this happens with just one or both of your pair of revolvers.  If it happens with just one, try swapping hammers.  If the light strikes move with the hammer, that may be your problem.  If both guns have the problem, it is almost certainly not the hammers.

[King Medallion]

Surprised to hear that the tension screws are all the way in. On mine, I filed the screws shorter so that they would still be touching the spring with just a touch of tension, yet not sticking out of the grip frame.

[Charlie Bowdre]

Thanks for the updates I am familiar with VTI actually have used them for over 10 years Great spot to order
Re tension springs I have the tension springs  the way in on all 3 Remys

I will note if it is one particular hammer
I know this isn't a super upsetting item so I am most thankful for your comments


charlie

[Cheyenne Logan]

Got my terminology wrong, but it sounded better than saying that little doo hickey.........Unfortunately the safety hammer is the only one made, but you can remove the safety parts and the safety if you need to.......try swapping the hammers and see if the problem follows the hammer, if not, then it would be time to look inside the frame for a burr or something slowing the hammer fall........

[Abilene]

Got my terminology wrong, but it sounded better than saying that little doo hickey.........Unfortunately the safety hammer is the only one made, but you can remove the safety parts and the safety if you need to.......try swapping the hammers and see if the problem follows the hammer, if not, then it would be time to look inside the frame for a burr or something slowing the hammer fall........

I'm actually a little surprised that Uberti hasn't replaced the Remington hammers with the new retractable firing pin hammers like on most of the SAA guns.  Probably because they have a boatload of those hammers and want to use them up. 

[Cheyenne Logan]

I would rather they offer an solid hammer, like they do for the SAA, and change the base pin release to the end of the web like the original.....doesn't have to have the spring in the base pin, a set screw would work.....that'd change the entire look of the gun.