1875 Forest & Stream - Winchester 44-40, 400 and 500 yard targets

Started by Bryan Austin, March 19, 2022, 07:19:57 PM

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Bryan Austin

Oct 1875 issue, Winchester's first month's adds starting Oct 21st
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Bryan Austin

Better look at the 400 and 500 yard targets....oh and Doc's 110 yard


well, never mind files too large and I ainit making them smaller

Here they are: https://sites.google.com/view/44winchester/chasing-the-44-40
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In all honesty, as much as I like to pull folk's chains, the bullet spread on the 400 targets cant be true or that makes them 4" groups......right?

​​​​​​​Now the 500 yard square target looks realistic.
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I tried to zoom in on one of the 400 yard targets till it matched the size of the 110 yard holes, this is what I see.
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Gotta love the rain, or at least the day after. Some much needed R&R time....at the range!!

Today's target compared with Winchester's 1866 Switzerland Trials target.
I have the hardest time trying to get photos uploaded here I will just share the link to the photos here:
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The Battle of Königgrätz

Say what? During the time between 14 June and 22 July 1866, the Prussians fought the Austrians. These battles were well observed by the Swiss. It was here that the Swiss decided that they were in need of modern breech-loading weapons.

The Swiss made a Decree that they would find and arm their sharpshooters and Army with breech-loading rifles on 20 July 1866.

During the 6th and 8th days of October, Winchester had already shipped the Model of 1866 to Switzerland for the Swiss Trials. On these two days the aforementioned targets were made.

On the 12th of October the Swiss government proposed an order for 8,000 repeaters for their best outfits but soon changed the proposal to between 90,000 and 110,000 repeaters to arm all of their soldiers. A condition to the contract would be that Winchester would also provide all of the tooling necessary for the 66's to be manufactured in Switzerland. Winchester could not or would not agree and offered some sort of counteroffer with the Henry rifle. The deal fell quiet and eventually Winchester backed off. I am unsure of the details.

The Report To The Commission For The Introduction Of The Breech-Loading Arms was dated Oct 1866 and published in Winchester's 1873 catalog. The information I posted above is not included in the report. The report talks about the Winchester Rifle - A. The Trajectory, B. The Precision and C. The Rapidity of Fire.

Now you know the rest of the story.

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