Wild Bunch film

[Major 2]

I'm watching the movie ...had not seen it in years . I noted @ 1:40 22  Ben Johnson handles his 03 Springfield,,, what was noteworthy ,  it is Scant stocked

Later when the Rifles are sold to the Mexican General they are also Scant stocked

[Baltimore Ed]

Scant stocks were built by Remington for the 03A3 in the 1940s due to the stock blanks being too small for a 'C' stock pistol grip according to Poyer.

[Major 2]

My 03 is a last year  03 receiver (not 03a3 ) as was produced 1938, it was mated to its barrel 2-42 at the  AA -Augusta Arsenal, Scant stocked.
and was issued to guards @ Fort Oglethorpe POW Prison barracks and stockades.

[Major 2]

Resurrected this thread because I have for time to time considered re-stocking.
  I haven't seen any straight stocks for sale that were not priced in the stratosphere.
Truth be known, I like the Scant it holds & shoots well, Im not sure it would pass muster @ say a BAMM match ? ED ?

I believe it will not at GAF Explanation Era .... ?

Then there is the provenance issue, the gun was assembled with the Scant 1942 in the first place.
I have found the S# is among, those used at the German POW camp at Ft. Oglethorpe, Ga.   
which is very cool.

30 or so years ago I had an 03A3, when they were $149  surplus refinished, I let it get away 
I did not reload then and only had factory loads. Now I roll my own with Trailboss and lead.
If I had known then what I do now, I believe the 03A3 would still be in my safe. 
 


   

[Baltimore Ed]

It would work at our BAMM Major. As long as its a military bolt action and lead ammo it's ok. We sometime adjust the rules to accommodate shooters with 5 rd magazines so everyone gets to play with stripper clips. We just had our Wild Bunch last weekend. A nice day. Only 6 WB and 4 cas shooters. Managed to win even with a P and a miss. Used my Crazy Lee M12.

[Major 2]

Thank you Sir !

[Baltimore Ed]

The stock of my cut down 1903 was a scant stock. I love you guys and this is a great forum but it is the absolute worst to post a photo on.

[Major 2]

The stock of my cut down 1903 was a scant stock. I love you guys and this is a great forum but it is the absolute worst to post a photo on.

Email me the photo, I'll gladly post it, I'd like to see it

[Galen]

Those who write the rules for Wild Bunch matches should take the "mistakes" in the movie into consideration when writing the rules for the weapons used in the matches.

[Major 2]

Then the rules would allow the Star Model B which was the stand in for the 1911's

[Coffinmaker]

Galen 

Had you been around when some acquaintances of mine first designed "Wild Bunch" as a really fun Side Match, including ALL the guns of the period, you'd see just how SAD what is called "Wild Bunch" today has become.

In the beginning, we allowed Broomhandles, Lugers, 1917 Revolvers, etc.  Extremely SAD with SASS did to Wild Bunch.

[Major 2]

They have it, their playground

[Galen]

Does a 1903 Springfield or a Krag Carbine qualify for a wild bunch match?

[Abilene]

Does a 1903 Springfield or a Krag Carbine qualify for a wild bunch match?

No.  But some clubs that hold wild bunch matches are also, if they have the space, having BAMM matches or side matches (Bolt Action Military Match).

[Baltimore Ed]

Become a SASS/WASA club and have it all. SAs, DAs, Self Loaders, load your pump gun on the clock with as many shells as you need for that scenario. Its no faster but a lot more fun. We do WB and BAMM several times a year. CAS shooters shoot alongside the WB/BAMM shooters. Everyone has a good time.

[Galen]

Oh yea, the rifle has to be above .40 caliber, even if the 1903 Springfield played a big part in the movie.

[Major 2]

The following weapons were used in The Wild Bunch:  credit to www.imfdb.org

   Colt M1911
        Star Model B
   Single Action Army
   Colt New Service
   Smith & Wesson Model 10
   Enfield No.2 Mk.I*
   Luger P08

   Springfield M1903A3
   Springfield M1903
   Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine
        Sharps 1874 Rifle
   Mauser Model 1936

   Winchester Model 1897
   Winchester Model 1912
   Single Barrel Shotgun
   Double-Barreled Shotgun
   
   Browning M1917 Machine Gun

[Galen]

let's talk the M3 1911 holster. How original was that?

[Abilene]

Oh yea, the rifle has to be above .40 caliber, even if the 1903 Springfield played a big part in the movie.

New SASS WB rules for 2024 eliminate the .40 and above caliber rule, as they try to attract more shooters.

[Major 2]

I would think that is a step in the right direction, to attract more shooters.